• irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    20 hours ago

    Nah, most employers have lots of stuff in their back pocket on almost every employee. That’s mostly what HR is for these days. Think you got away with forgetting to put in your PTO day that one time you were sick 5 years ago? Nah, that’s just a fireable ofence to use against you later for theft. But this is enough on its own to justify an insubordination firing in most “right to work” states in the US.

    • sexybenfranklin@ttrpg.network
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      15 hours ago

      There’s nothing stopping them from firing you, but a one time offense will not get the government to deny you you unemployment, assuming you appeal any denial. Especially if the only other ammo they have is from five years ago.

      • irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        13 hours ago

        Nope, Texas had no problem denying my unemployment and appeal when the company had a major change in leadership and I wasn’t interested in playing politics. They came up with some made up excuse that I was not coming to the office daily per the policy. And my boss had already been pushed out of his role as COO and Executive VP and moved to a marketing director job with no real power, so he couldn’t help.

        When I was fired the date they gave that I hadn’t come in I was able to present evidence to the unemployment when I came in the office and left because traffic was bad that day and I took the toll road and had the receipt. So, they came back with another day. That one I hadn’t used the toll road and since I wasn’t allowed to get other employees to say they saw me there, so I had no evidence that wasn’t fully under the control of the company. That was enough for them to rule I was insubordinate by not coming into the office for 8 hrs/day when it was policy to do so. Forget that I was paid salary and worked way more than 40hrs a week. And that I was doing way more than I was supposed to be based on my job title and I was barely being paid anything for what I was doing. They weren’t saying I wasn’t working enough. Just that I violated that one rule even one time was enough for unemployment to be denied. That’s all it takes. I could have appealed higher, but that would have required a lawyer and would have cost more than the pittance I would have gotten from the unemployment anyway.

        So, yes, refusing a direct instruction, even once, is even more severe than that and likely would be enough to have your unemployment denied in a “right to work” state.

        • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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          8 hours ago

          . these are things that were told on glassdoors, indeed forums/reviews. before the companies came after job sites years ago, for exposing thier unethical business praticies.