• floo@retrolemmy.com
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    The only people who believe that animals cannot be raised as livestock in a sustainable fashion are the closed minded food, fanatics known as vegans.

    It can be done, but not with your limited imagination and viewpoint on the world.

    The problem is that people like you don’t want a solution. You want to be able to simultaneously claim victimhood while also lecturing and condescending to the entire world. Veganism is nothing more than an addiction to the sense of superiority over others.

    If you actually cared about greenhouse gases, or animal cruelty, you’d be willing to explore other options. But vegans are extremists. It’s their way or no way.

    I (and most people), on the other hand, care about greenhouse, gases, and animal, cruelty, and all of the other downsides to factory farming, but I’m not so stupid, I don’t have a big chunk of my brain, scooped out by religious fanaticism, so I can actually see alternatives.

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      Dude… you are literally claiming A) that I am vegan when I explicitly wrote that I am not, and B) that I am “not open to alternatives”, when I myself mentioned two aspects concerning how animal raising can be done sustainably, only that that is not what our current system favours due to reasons of maximising profitability.

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      This subject is very clearly a sore point for you. It might behove you to figure out why that is, rather than spontaneously attacking people that are essentially siding with you.

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        Oh yes, your food-bad religious extremism is somehow my fault. Just another thing that vegans love about being vegan: false victimhood.

        Go get your own identity. This one is boring.

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      Are you willing to reduce your consumption on meat to better all these negative things of traditional livestock farming, which you mentioned?

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        Are you willing to give up your false sense of moral superiority and stop judging people?

        Didn’t think so

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          I mean, if you want to give livestock better living conditions, then you also must pay obviously more. This would reduce your consumption on meat, if you don‘t want to pay more. That‘s why I’m asking.

          The amount of available meat to buy would also be reduced, because if livestock gets more room and freedom to live, there would be less livestock inside the farms and therefore less meat in the stores.

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            And look at that. It only took you two days to work out the answer for yourself.

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              I’m sorry, but you wrote your comment only one day ago, so it didn’t took me two days.

              I don’t know If I can still assume that you are a rational being. So I wish you the best.

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                And yet you still come back here complaining about how much i bother you.

                I think it’s funny that you consider that to be rational

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      Factory farming has never been done sustainably. Give an example if you disagree. Or are you one of those homesteader guys who thinks he can raise two cows and four sheep on an acre alongside your field of corn and miniature orchard?