Russia also drafts civilians. Hundreds of thousands of them, so far. So, what you are saying, is pure bullshit. Russia doesn’t give a fuck how many civilians die for Putin’s war.
If they did care, it would be the easiest thing in the world to solve. Just withdraw their troops and go home. Everyone lives. The ongoing death toll has always been up to them. They chose this.
Russia also drafts civilians. Hundreds of thousands of them, so far.
Ah, silly me, look like I felt victim to tankie propaganda, I thought in Russia people join the army because there are monetary incentives to do so! Can you now please share a page similar to https://uadraftmuseum.ch/ documenting how evil Russian empire kidnaps people off the streets, beats and busifies them, so that I can finally break free from the propaganda? Thank you very much!
If you want to complain about how one side is doing something bad…it helps if the side you’re defending isn’t also doing the same thing. And for the record, sarcasm is really only effective if the point you’re trying to make, is valid. Bullshitting your way through an argument, is just intellectually dishonest.
First link - about detention for protesting. Thanks for proving my point about people in Russia having more freedoms and at least some chance to protest. In Ukraine you would not even think about, as you would be kidnapped and sent to the meatgrinder immediately.
Second link also further proves my point - “conscripts cannot legally be deployed to participate in military operations in Ukraine”, so in other words you are not sent to die in the meatgrinder. The following example of conscripts actually getting into war is about Ukraine invading (!!) Kursk oblast, where they murdered soldiers and civilians. The stories about the actual kidnappings are just that - stories. Perhaps if you look really hard you would be able to find 1 or 2 videos of that happening in Russia, where individual officers overstep their authority, in Ukraine its systematic, and well the only way to keep the war going.
So again, Russia is liberating people imprisoned by Zelensky’s regime.
First link - about detention for protesting. Thanks for proving my point about people in Russia having more freedoms and at least some chance to protest. In Ukraine you would not even think about, as you would be kidnapped and sent to the meatgrinder immediately.
So…you didn’t actually read the article then? Because it goes into quite a bit of detail about how protestors are being jailed and the media is being censored. Which is the exact opposite of what you are claiming.
Second link also further proves my point - “conscripts cannot legally be deployed to participate in military operations in Ukraine”, so in other words you are not sent to die in the meatgrinder. The following example of conscripts actually getting into war is about Ukraine invading (!!) Kursk oblast, where they murdered soldiers and civilians. The stories about the actual kidnappings are just that - stories. Perhaps if you look really hard you would be able to find 1 or 2 videos of that happening in Russia, where individual officers overstep their authority, in Ukraine its systematic, and well the only way to keep the war going.
Again…you didn’t actually read the whole article, did you? That one detail you quoted, is being circumvented by several new changes to the law, and in many cases is simply ignored by commanding officers in the field. All that is in the article. Along with the fact that those who resist the draft or try to avoid conscription are often beaten, tasered and forced to join anyway, or they are sent to prison for as much as two years…and then they are sent to war after that.
Your arguments are so transparently disingenuous that there is really no point in providing you with any further information. You are obviously just going to ignore it.
Russia also drafts civilians. Hundreds of thousands of them, so far. So, what you are saying, is pure bullshit. Russia doesn’t give a fuck how many civilians die for Putin’s war.
If they did care, it would be the easiest thing in the world to solve. Just withdraw their troops and go home. Everyone lives. The ongoing death toll has always been up to them. They chose this.
Ah, silly me, look like I felt victim to tankie propaganda, I thought in Russia people join the army because there are monetary incentives to do so! Can you now please share a page similar to https://uadraftmuseum.ch/ documenting how evil Russian empire kidnaps people off the streets, beats and busifies them, so that I can finally break free from the propaganda? Thank you very much!
You mean, something like this? Or maybe this?
If you want to complain about how one side is doing something bad…it helps if the side you’re defending isn’t also doing the same thing. And for the record, sarcasm is really only effective if the point you’re trying to make, is valid. Bullshitting your way through an argument, is just intellectually dishonest.
First link - about detention for protesting. Thanks for proving my point about people in Russia having more freedoms and at least some chance to protest. In Ukraine you would not even think about, as you would be kidnapped and sent to the meatgrinder immediately.
Second link also further proves my point - “conscripts cannot legally be deployed to participate in military operations in Ukraine”, so in other words you are not sent to die in the meatgrinder. The following example of conscripts actually getting into war is about Ukraine invading (!!) Kursk oblast, where they murdered soldiers and civilians. The stories about the actual kidnappings are just that - stories. Perhaps if you look really hard you would be able to find 1 or 2 videos of that happening in Russia, where individual officers overstep their authority, in Ukraine its systematic, and well the only way to keep the war going.
So again, Russia is liberating people imprisoned by Zelensky’s regime.
So…you didn’t actually read the article then? Because it goes into quite a bit of detail about how protestors are being jailed and the media is being censored. Which is the exact opposite of what you are claiming.
Again…you didn’t actually read the whole article, did you? That one detail you quoted, is being circumvented by several new changes to the law, and in many cases is simply ignored by commanding officers in the field. All that is in the article. Along with the fact that those who resist the draft or try to avoid conscription are often beaten, tasered and forced to join anyway, or they are sent to prison for as much as two years…and then they are sent to war after that.
Your arguments are so transparently disingenuous that there is really no point in providing you with any further information. You are obviously just going to ignore it.