• taco@piefed.social
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    20 hours ago

    I am 100% down for sailing the high seas. But let’s not sugarcoat it, this analogy is always been kind of crap.

    It’s less an analogy than the literal legal definition of theft.

    Somebody went to your mailbox took out your paycheck, made a copy of it, put the original back in your box, went to the bank and cashed it.

    This analogy is crap. When they took your paycheck, that was theft. Even if temporarily, you didn’t have the check. If they cash the fraudulent check, they’re not copying the money; it’s coming out of your account. That’s also theft. Both cases, the original is being removed, whether it be the physical check or the money from your account. The only reason there might be a “copy” in your analogy is some sort of fraud protection by the bank, at which point it’s the bank’s money getting stolen. Still theft though.

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      19 hours ago

      Theft is more than just physically removing a non-fungible item. Depriving owed earnings is also considered theft, hence why piracy is considered theft because there is a debt owed for the pirated media. If you believe in wage theft, then you believe in IP theft.

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        17 hours ago

        hence why piracy is considered theft because there is a debt owed for the pirated media

        This is objectively false in any meaningful way. It’s certainly not considered theft (at least in the US), and there’s absolutely no debt owed for pirated media (unless you count seeding it forward).

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        18 hours ago

        Depriving owed earnings is also considered theft.

        I mean, so is not doing anything… wait i better not give them any ideas.