• fonji@sopuli.xyz
    15·
    8 hours ago

    Then marketing comes around, asks to add google tag manager, and proceeds to make the client download 10TB of tracking librairies.

    At least node_modules don’t directly impact the browser.

  • bjorney@lemmy.ca
    61·
    20 hours ago

    > want to compile 50kb C++ console app on windows

    > 6 GB MSVC installation

          • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
            3·
            6 hours ago

            Okay that’s fair. I fricked around with some C++ numerics BLAS header library (I think it was Eigen) on Linux before that was complicated and annoying too. The ARM Fast Models simulator was also a pain. Maybe I just don’t like C++ development now that I think about it.

            C mostly worked okay for me though.

          • FuckBigTech347@lemmygrad.ml
            1·
            7 hours ago

            That’s only been my experience with software that depends on many different libraries. And it’s extra painful when you find out that it needs hyper specific versions of libraries that are older than the ones you have already installed. Rust is only painless because it just downloads all the right dependencies.

    • arty@feddit.org
      9·
      17 hours ago

      I keep seeing complaints from non JavaScript developers about their IDE not handling millions of files in a folder properly

  • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    27·
    19 hours ago

    Depending on the design of its memory, a device with a full drive will literally weigh slightly more or slightly less than one with an empty drive. Charging the battery in all cases causes it to weigh more.

    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
      531·
      23 hours ago

      JavaScript itself is fine. The problem is developers who import a library to add two numbers.

      • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
        161·
        18 hours ago

        I don’t know about “fine”. It has a lot of weird stuff baked in. Hoisting. Unexpected type coercion. Too many ways to loop over something and I always forget which one is which. “There’s more than one way to do it” is kind of a recurring problem, come to think of it. Several function declaration syntaxes. Dot notation AND bracket notation for objects.

        Also it will forever bother me that object keys aren’t quoted.

        const foo = "hello"; const bar = { foo: "world" }

        That should be, in my mind, { "hello": "world" } . It’s not. It’s { "foo": "world" }

        But if you want to do that, you need to do const bar = { [foo]: world }. Which looks like your key is an array with one entry, a string with a value of “foo”

        You also end up learning a whole framework, with its syntax and idioms, every couple years. Angular. React. Redux. Whatever.

        There’s also a lot of people who have never used anything else, and want to use javascript for everything.

        Javascript is basically D&D. Wildly popular. Full of legacy jank. People try to use it for anything even though there are better or more specialized tools.

        • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
          21·
          10 hours ago

          No need to convince me it’s shit. Also how do you end up only knowing Javascript? Who the hell starts out using Javascript of all the languages?

          • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
            6·
            10 hours ago

            Anyone entering through web development. If you’re self taught or did a “coding boot camp”, it might be the only language you’ve used. A lot of places use it for backend stuff now, too

        • Lemminary@lemmy.world
          31·
          16 hours ago

          After reading the JS Bible and listening to a lot of Kyle Simpson, I don’t find any of those unusual or unexpected, but rather neat in the context of the language. And with enough practice, even the implicit return of an arrow functions jumps out at you.

      • i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca
        40·
        22 hours ago

        Excuse me, but it’s industry practice to always use PlusJs.

        Its just annoying that it has its own dependency on MinusJs.

      • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
        93·
        19 hours ago

        Oh Hells no.

        JavaScript is NOT fine, it’s … I’m really trying to think of a word that will convey the shit that it is without triggering half the people on Lemmy into an aneurysm, but I can’t find it.

        JavaScript is by far the worst. I’ve been working with JavaScript for the past 6 days and I want to hang myself, it’d be a better fate than continuing

      • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
        9·
        21 hours ago

        Use the modulo operator? Nah. Need to import the isEven library and a ton of other unnecessary sub-50 LOC libraries “maintained” by a single dev to make their CV look more impressive. /s

  • andyburke@fedia.io
    111·
    20 hours ago

    lol at 3/4 of a megabyte of Vue components being ok and thinking node_modules is the issue at hand.