• Piye@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    So is Turkey, your NATO ally who bombs minorities and steals other peoples cultural heritage. Stop being a hypocrite

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      1 year ago

      Big words from someone who just brought three different forms of sharia law into BRICS.

      I still don’t fucking understand why tankies simp so hard for this shit. It’s like you are trying to prove that your philosophy is no deeper than “America bad.”

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      Unfortunately NATO wasn’t designed in a way that conceived of a rogue member state like Turkey. This means that it has a very limited toolkit for reigning in Erdogan’s excesses. He also has a huge amount of leverage due to Turkey’s pivotal role on the Black Sea which is obviously critical to everything happening in Ukraine. For now, NATO really does have its hands tied with regard to Turkey.

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          I don’t think I follow your arguments. Is there a way you can rephrase your point such that a dummy like myself might understand it?

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              I’m not talking about anyone being justified; I am talking about realpolitik and the fact that in international relations it’s often the case that what ought to be is often in direct conflict with what actually is.

              It would be awesome if we could live in a world of absolutes wherein national interests never conflicted with moral ambiguity, but that’s just not reality at all, sorry to inform.

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          1 year ago

          Lemmygrad 🤡

          (Also Putin is not a communist, but a post-fascist masquerading as an anti-fascist)

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            Also Putin is not a communist, but a post-fascist masquerading as an anti-fascist

            Wow, so you do actually have eyes! Fucking hell, you are raising my respect for you!

            Fun fact, I would nothing but for Putin to get hanged. But not by American imperialists and their lapdogs, but by the russian proletariat for the reestablishment of an RSFSR.

            So sorry buddy. It seems your assumption about me has been wrong, I suggest lurking more before speaking about your opponents.

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      1 year ago

      The best and last argument of dumb tankies is whataboutism. Thank you for your insightful contribution.

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          Actually, that’s exactly what whataboutism is.

          Someone says: wow, topic A is bad.

          Whataboutism says: oh yeah, well B is bad/worse!!!1!

          Point is, we’re not talking about B/Turkey. And B/Turkey being bad doesn’t mean that A/Russia is excused from their terrible behavior.

          And (gasp!) Just because I oppose A/Russia doesn’t mean I support B/Turkey.

          The entire argument is bad faith and lacking any logic or critical thinking.