Like y’all keep posting about it, praising it, giving it free advertisement, and what not.

But the dev is a fascist, the discord server is a fascist bar, and the project thus is fascist.

I’ve met people who were harassed, I browsed through now deleted messages of Vaxry using slurrs and more.

So I wonder is if the people who post constantly about it know and are complicit, or just don’t know and would act otherwise?

It gets tiring to see the project be given “fame” when I know the roots of the plants are founded in toxicity & abuse.

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    How about we just tell the truth as is?

    But that’s exactly what I mean when I say recommend good software and recommend good thoughts.

    Why do you assume I wanna “hide” problematic information? Did I say that? What I’m saying is don’t hide the fact that good things are good. The good car will be a good car, and the manufacturer being problematic will be a problematic manufacturer.

    Recommending the good car does not imply that you support the manufacturer, and denouncing the manufacturer does not imply that their cars are bad and not something we should recommend.

    What’s the manufacturer of the device you are using right now?

    If a notorious criminal created a cure for cancer, I’ll sing praises to his amazing work, asking everyone to use it. But that dos not mean I approve of their crimes. It would be perfectly consistent with my praise of his work to, at the same time, ask for him to to be judged and sentenced accordingly for the crimes he committed…

    The world is not black and white. People are not angels just because they have one good thought, nor do they become monsters that poison everything they touch if they have one wrong thought.

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      Yeah, seems we’re on the same page, then. Because I occasionally get into that situation. People ask me stuff and I’ll tell them, there is software XY or Linux distribution XY which does exactly what you’re looking for, but it’s owned by a company which is known for making problematic business decisions, so wouldn’t recommend using it before giving it a good thought if that’s going to impede with your application… Or I’ll tell them about some software project and simultaneously say, I can’t endorse it due to the political stance or behaviour of the devs/maintainers… Happened a few times to me with niche projects, Android distributions and Fediverse projects. I’ll then not walk around and advertise for them, but instead only give a complete picture of the situation on request.

      And I’ll do it in other parts of my life as well… Try to boycott clothes from a particularly bad sweatshop, even if they fit and suit me well… Not buy tasty food if it’s from Nesté or the Coca Cola company… Though those are on a different level of “bad” as this one. Just saying toxic things on the internet isn’t exactly the same as supporting child labor, slavery and stealing poor people’s water supply.

      My current device is a Dell laptop I got second hand.