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UK colonialism killed 100 million in India. Six million children die from poverty in capitalist countries every year. Don’t give me your “muh communist regime” talk.
British colonialism killed a whole lot more than that in India, that’s just the figure for the worst 40 years. There’s plenty more millions either side.
Neither the USSR nor the CCP ever tried to be communist. They used that banner to gather supporters and then seized all control of the government in an authoritarian takeover. Communism doesn’t have “dear leaders” or usually even parties. Places like the USSR used their control over capital and wages and property ownership to control their populace entirely. We’ve never really seen an actual communist country because all the major efforts were sabotaged by people who wanted to be dictators.
Someone knows their political philosophy😉. This is correct and well said.
Despite the tankie dislikes you are 100% right and idk about Communism but I definitely believe in democratic socialism!
Hello tankie
I haven’t dug through their post history, but this post isn’t the definition of tankie, not all communists are tankies. Tankie = the pricks who support the Russian evasion, deny Tiananmen square, etc. Fuck tankies, but this post ain’t that
This post is blaming the West for cold war communism failures.
And cold war communism is only considered “good” if your a tankie.
Do you try to compare aituations like Chile to the UDSSR or what?
I’m not a tankie but tianenmen square was definitely a CIA operation.
/s?
Saucey sauce
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No?
Okay im game, tell me how the Chinese killing a bunch of people in Tiananmen square is the cia’s fault.
Can you explain how china conquering Tibet is not their fault either?
The ‘democracy protestors’ were all capitalist agitators funded by the CIA. The main ‘organizers’ now either live in the USA or hong Kong and are very rich.
As for Tibet I suggest you listen to this short video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRJdqkjmiKI
Pen and teller did a great episode of bullshit on Tibet as well
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Read between the lines, they are not-so-subtly talking about the current war. Same verbiage used by the tankos.
EDIT: Shit, they are from lemmygrad, so there’s your answer.
hi lib
hi nazi
Nazis were capitalists 😂
i know
Hello ad hominem slinging capitalist.
by number of downvotes this post getting you can get the idea of cia propaganda effect till now.
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Tankies are truely disgraces to all communists.
This meme didn’t mention tankies at all, if you’re saying that all communists are tankies then you’re just an anti communist
Ya like it mentioned CIA propaganda and Western aggression. Like is this guy a communist who’s pro Western fuckery???
Left anticommunists moment
Hi, I’m very leftist. Yet somehow the only people who agree with me are also well-off Westerners.
no more half measures walter
What is a tankie? Can you clearly and succinctly define it?
Personally, I define tankies as the fucks who support the Russian invasion and deny Tiananmen Square. You can be communist without being a fascist bootlicker
How can it have any real meaning if everyone has their own personal definition?
Lots of things work like that. It’s called connotation (personal definition and significance), which does not require denotation (an actual definition)
Yeah sounds like the definition of a slur
Slur, “an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation.” So, yes. I’m not particularly worried about slurs against tankies, just like I don’t care about insulting or harming the reputation of nazis
ETA: pigs is a slur for cops, that’s a slur I don’t mind either
Based
s are truely disgraces to all sT-Tankies bad!! Updoots to the left, tyvm.
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what happened to the marketplace of ideas
Banning doesn’t work. If you don’t like them, you gotta out-meme them.
Jokes on you because everything is political.
No
For the love of everything can we please ban people like this?!
There’s already a dozen of those
containerscommunities, but these “memes” keep leaking.
Capitalism worked under Eastern aggression, Communist economic sanctions, Communist covert actions, and a propaganda apparatus far more widespread than anything from the West.
It worked better than Communism because it works better than Communism. LMFAO
Capitalism worked under Eastern aggression
Right, the countries that invaded the USSR in its nascent years, constantly tried to assassinate leaders of progressive movements, couped most countries on Earth.
Communist economic sanctions, Communist covert actions
The projection lol
and a propaganda apparatus far more widespread than anything from the West.
As that joke goes, a CIA and KGB officer meet at a bar. The CIA officer says to the KGB officer “You’ve got a good propaganda machine!”, the KGB officer replies “Well, yours is unbeatable.”
The CIA agent responds with “What propaganda? In the West we don’t have propaganda.”
Keep crying, tankie
Your shitty dictatorships failed because they were orders of magnitude more corrupt and dysfunctional than capitalism, and even more oppressive towards the general public.
Dictatorship is when bad country, democratic is when good western country
I mean you cam take western out and your statement still works fine.
Fuck authoritarians of any side.
Any society is authoritarian, it depends who wields it.
Your point is?
That you have been brainwashed to only see communist country as authoritarian while the police in your democracy kills black people every day on the street.
Because the Tsar and the Chinese warlords and Battista and Imperial Japanese occupation where pillars of democracy before those countries’ revolutions. Also like 90% of Chinese citizens are happy with their government, vs a sad 20% of Americans.
Odd how people in a country where it’s illegal to not be happy with the government report being happy with the government
Westerners hate their government so much that they cannot see beyond their own parochial worldview to even entertain the idea that some people would feel generally supportive of their government.
Those sneaky Orientals must be lying in order to trick is good, honest, non-perfidious enlightened westerners again.
Easterners who hate their government disappear or learn to hide it. Westerners get to piss and moan.
Ah yes, that’s very true. You must be something a field anthropologist.
People in the East wouldn’t ever protest and get away with it.
That’s a very valid contribution that you made to the discussion. Nice work.
If it’s illegal then why didn’t the last 10ish% also say they approve?
Shh don’t ask that
Personal bravery? Idk.
God you are ignorant
Let’s try a different tack then - if it’s illegal to disapprove of the government and you’ll be locked up for it, and 10% of the population voice disapproval, why are only 0.12% of the population imprisoned? Do you actually understand the logistical undertaking disappearing or imprisoning over 140 million people would be? Do you not think it’s more likely that it’s just not illegal to disapprove, and that they really do generally approve of their government?
Read the Harvard study, it directly refutes this point of view and even charts some problems Chinese citizens said they have with the government. I cannot imagine being as ignorant as you lmao
So are you saying Putin is a not shitty dictator? He’s definitely not a communist and he’s still in charge of Russia.
Nah he’s a fascist. Same corruption as communism, different flavor.
Oh? please explain
They’re both auth dictator scumbags who steal from and oppress the people. Dictators are dictators. Left or right, the only difference is exactly who they want to kill. The Soviets oppressed and occupied Eastern Europe and Putin wants nothing more than to do the same.
Thankfully, Putin is less capable than Stalin, so Russian fascist rule isn’t as terrible as Soviet communist rule.
So all those price controls under the soviet Union were just them oppressing their citizens?
Read this and watch this, you can lead a horse to water or whatever
Imagine
stillhaving this much faith in capitalism after all the horrifying shit that’s been happeningIt’s the worst economic system except for anything else we have tried.
Sorry but the U.S. had to massacre 1M Indonesians to prevent a socialist movement and arm Nazis in countries with popular socialist movements to terrorize the population, it’s just that capitalism naturally seems to work better. The best system is the one where millions of people are bombed for the white first world to stay on top, while in the first world the police murder minorities and companies exploit the poor.
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You know who it worked for?
Insert Parenti speech about “Capitalism works oh so well in Latin America, Africa and Central Asia”
far more widespread than anything from the West
This might be the most absurd, brainrotten comment I’ve seen since federation.
