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    Questioning economic/political systems is very different from questioning the system of The divine ruler/higher power of the universe, who knows infinitely more than you or I ever will. But keep being a heathen I guess.

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      But keep being a heathen I guess.

      That is the plan. And the plan of literally everyone on the planet who doesn’t share your religion. It’s incredibly chauvinistic of you to assume your religion is correct by default BTW.

      questioning the system of The divine ruler/higher power of the universe, who knows infinitely more than you or I ever will.

      I’ll tell you what, prove to me that your god knows anything, anything at all (and therefore exists), and I’ll never say another bad word about catholics again. Hell I’ll become a catholic immediately. What do you say? Should be easy enough to prove “god” knows more than us. You were so sure after all.

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        That is the plan. And the plan of literally everyone on the planet who doesn’t share your religion

        Buddy I respect Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, whatever, AS LONG AS YOU’RE NOT AN ATHEIST I won’t think you’re crazy

        I’ll tell you what, prove to me that your god knows anything, anything at all

        Every portrait has a painter. How blatantly narcissistic of you to believe the stars in the sky and the toes on your feet just exist because they exist. Do you think the universe and the supposed “big bang” just came from nothing? EVERY PORTRAIT HAS A PAINTER. Let that sink in. And Christianity is the only religion with evidence btw.

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          How blatantly narcissistic of you to believe the stars in the sky and the toes on your feet just exist because they exist.

          You have it inverted. If the universe exists without regard to me, that’s the opposite of narcissism. Wheras if you believe the universe exists because an all powerful paternal figure really loves you and all your buddies specifically, with a perfect grand plan for you. What is that but the height of narcissism?

          EVERY PORTRAIT HAS A PAINTER.

          A meaningless platitude and a humanocentric view of the universe. AKA more narcissism.

          And Christianity is the only religion with evidence btw.

          Provide literally any then.

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            Do you REALLY think the Universe simply sprung into action from “science” and nothing else? That everything on Earth just, painted itself through evolution? That is INCREDIBLY ignorant.

            If there is no God, there is no objective morality. You just live your life believing murder is only wrong SUBJECTIVELY?? That EVIL is technically a made up concept??? Tell that to fucking Hitler. Without religion there is no light, no hope, no moral laws…

            Wheras if you believe the universe exists because an all powerful paternal figure really loves you and all your buddies specifically

            God loves ALL of his Creations, even you, despite you failing to see it… it’s not too late to turn to the light.

            https://evidenceforchristianity.org/

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              That is INCREDIBLY ignorant.

              About as ignorant as claiming your religions creation myth is correct despite lacking any evidence for it whatsoever?

              If there is no God, there is no objective morality. You just live your life believing murder is only wrong SUBJECTIVELY??

              Even if your god existed and handed you your morality, it would still be subjective. Merely his subjective view on morality.

              https://evidenceforchristianity.org/

              Lol, lmao even. There is a lot to go over on that site, not really a direct source per se. But it’s very telling that straight off the bat I’m asked to donate and subscribe. Kind of gives away the motives don’t you think? Do you have any direct evidence to show, rather than asking me to sift through a site which is dominated by a section aptly called apologetics? The science section seems to be sparse on proof.

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                Even if your god existed and handed you your morality, it would still be subjective. Merely his subjective view on morality.

                God isn’t a person, put some respect to His fucking name asshole. He knows all, he is divine and omnipresent, He sees you doubting Him right now and scowls. The law of God is the universal, objective law.

                Maybe actually read that site because there’s PLENTY of indisputable evidence.

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                  God isn’t a person, put some respect to His fucking name asshole. He knows all, he is divine and omnipresent,

                  Your subjective opinion of course.

                  He sees you doubting Him right now and scowls.

                  Are you writing a fanfic or something lmao?

                  The law of God is the universal, objective law.

                  Objective? Clearly not.

                  indisputable evidence.

                  Again point to literally any. Rather than the front page of a big site. Imagine if people linked the front page of Wikipedia instead of specific pages. It’s ridiculous behavior.

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                    Your subjective opinion of course.

                    Indisputable common sense that the universe came from SOMETHING.

                    And if time, space, and matter had a beginning, then whatever created space, time, and matter had to be outside of it. Something can’t from nothing.

                    Are you writing a fanfic or something lmao?

                    God is omnipresent, He sees, feels, and understand everything in the world, all sin and all good, all love and all hate.

                    Objective? Clearly not.

                    The King of Kings gets to decide objectivity yes. Regardless, “objective” is a meaningless human construct that your small Earthly mind clings to, God is so much more.

                    Again point to literally any. Rather than the front page of a big site. Imagine if people linked the front page of Wikipedia instead of specific pages. It’s ridiculous behavior.

                    Watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbeFQtaybB8