• Sundial@lemm.ee
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    9 days ago

    I’m not American. I didn’t choose anything. America chose Trump. They chose Trump because Harris led a shit campaign where she managed to lose to the most despicable fascist wanna-be dictator we’ve ever seen, wrapped in an incredibly hated platform (Project 2025), and while campaigning with the most disliked VP in American history. That’s my point. That’s been my point all along. Democrats ran a shitty campaign by simply thinking that they’re entitled to votes simply because of how bad Trump is. That’s not how elections work. Anyone with two brain cells knows this. She lost the Arab-American vote because she not only ignored them but actively silenced them. This caused her to lose Michigan, and potentially even Arizona, Georgia and Pennsylvania because of this.

    Premise 1 is factually incorrect. Saying Harris would have worked towards a ceasefire is not a logical conclusion given her refusal to admit it’s a genocide, her unwavering support for Israel, and her work as a VP in the current administration. I’ll freely admit that Trump is worse in every other policy. But on the topic of Palestine they are the same. Both offer Israel unconditional and unwavering support and protection. Just one openly admits it. Until you are actually capable of answering the above question of explaining why you believe the Democrats have been holding Israel back for the past 14 months or how the Arabs would have voted for Harris if it meant they could save the Palestinians then this fact holds true. And before you repeat the line of “That was Biden this is Harris”. She could have distanced from Biden’s stance on this but she didn’t. She made it very clear that she will continue what Biden started.

    Premise 2 is an incredibly cruel and callous argument to make to people who are losing loved ones to the conflict. To paint you a picture of what I mean there is a woman in Minnesota who lost over 40 family members to a single Israeli airstrike. Just one. And this happens daily in Gaza, the West Bank, and Lebanon. And then her Governor, Tim Walz, went on the National VP debate and the only comment he could muster about Israel was that he supports Israels right to expand it’s borders. And you expected these people to vote for Harris/Walz? With their unwavering support of Israel? This is not an idea that is rooted in reality. We aren’t talking about a diplomatic argument, some immigration policy, or some foreign trade agreement. We are talking about the complete eradication of an entire nation through violent means.

    Premise 3 is irrelevant. No one expected anyone else other than Trump or Harris to win. Like I said above, Arabs just wanted to send a big fuck you to the Democrats for making it seem that not arming a genocide of their people is too big an ask.

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      9 days ago

      Ah, you aren’t even American and you are arguing American politics. No wonder you are full of shit. You don’t have to face the consequences of a Trump presidency directly. No wonder you are so fucking privileged.

      Stop trying to influence American politics and stick to your own. I’m done with you, there’s no point to this.

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        8 days ago

        Unfortunately for all of us, America doesn’t leave us alone. We’re all going to face the consequences of Trump in one form or the other. Americans are just privileged enough to fuck yourselves over. The rest of us just have to deal with your shitty political system, without any say in the matter. Democrats kept parroting a hollow and tone deaf line of being better than Trump and lost the most winnable election. That’s how bad it is. Genocide is too big of an ask of the American government evidently.