I would imagine most societies would look sort of like Germany or Japan, but the real question is which widespread social norms are directly or indirectly caused by endemic and widespread Neurotypical Disorder, as well as what those social norms would be replaced by

For example, I would expect the attached poster to not exist for various obvious reasons. But how do you think an autistic society would handle the indication of listening/attentiveness?

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    I feel like all these utopian ideas fail to take into account that uh, autism takes a lot of different forms and some of them ask for completely opposite things.

    Some autistic people have a…laissez-faire approach to hygiene, some are neurotic about being clean. Some stim, others would rather commit murder than hear that goddamn toy go “clicky clack” one more fucking time. Some are hyperempathetic with no sense of personal space, others have low empathy and just want to be left the fuck alone. And that’s before you start considering comobidities - I think most people with ADHD would rather die than eat deliberately understimilating “autism cusine”

    I feel like most people here are answering “what would it look like if everyone was your specific brand of autism?” not “what would it look like if most people were autistic?”

    I’d say either we end up with everyone forming tight cliches (not good for a greater society) or one group overpowers the rest and enforces their “lack of social skills” as the new social norm. Now it’s “don’t look directly at people” and “be as blunt as possible” and “chili is banned forever”

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      This is something I tried to take into consideration for my comment as it is difficult to really give a definitive answer. I think people forget that autistic people aren’t guaranteed to cooperate with each other and may even have more conflicts.

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        That is certainly true in my experience. I remember making a friend in middle school, but when I told him I thought baseball was boring he got very mad at me and never forgave me.

        Baseball was his SI

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      Very valid points which have got me thinking a bit more.

      Some issues and scenarios would probably be a bit exaggerated due to the amount of passion and how principled one can be about something. Radical and different attitudes would probably be the norm, both positive ones and negative ones alike depending on your perspective.

      Getting people on the same page could be more difficult… likely addressed with very specialised products and regions - lets say one city caters to people who really prefer quiet and cleanliness, and another for people who want to get around by bike but still enjoy nature. This is a really idealistic way of looking at it though, but I don’t think it’s entirely unrealistic.

      I wonder how poverty would affect things too

      I think it would be mostly a net positive, because for most of us (in my opinion/from my perspective) money isn’t the sole motivator for our passion, possibly leading us to be more inclined to try and help others of a different NT flavor who need more support, or direct our passions into things to benefit ourselves and our corners of the planet.

      If I ever amassed a large amount of money, I’d love to start a project catering to NTs. There was one previously in my country centered around engineering education, but those facilities closed down because we all kept failing - mainly due to turnover, lack of staff and support available for us. The non-NT minority did really well in contrast though. The 2 hour public transport commute was long, i do not miss that. Personally LOVED everything else though, it was so chill and everyone was friendly af. I helped the racing team work on their car’s custom ECU, one of my friends started a web design business there, another started a charity - the head gave both a room, free of charge to use at any time. The whole thing felt like a startup I guess, without any of the crunch or that stuff. I don’t recall there being any disruptive students either. The experiences I had there make for a very interesting CV, got lots of questions about them when I was looking for a job previously. Really wish others could have the same opportunities available.

      I feel like most people here are answering “what would it look like if everyone was your specific brand of autism?”

      Most of us here are likely answering from this perspective without realising lol.