This would just be an occasional nuisance I reckon. You’d get pretty good at it. Just like all the other mundane things we have to do in our mortal lives.

Yeah I get that, what I’m saying is: I bet it’s global. Africans probably painted Africans, Asians probably painted Asians. I don’t think white man was exclusively racist.

Are there a plethora of examples of black artwork depicting ripped white dudes? Or are we just saying that White Racism existed in a vacuum?

Thanks, appreciate the insight.

That sounds reasonable. Why would I have an issue with this person being late? I wouldn’t. It’s a great example of having a reason.

But I’m not psychic, nor am I a doctor of any kind, so if you expect me to make allowances without telling me what allowances you need then unfortunately you’re out of luck.

If you expect me to make allowances for people incase they’re ND then also you’re out of luck. I’m going to ask you why you’re late, I’m going to react to what you told me - anything you haven’t told me is unknown.

That some people want to paint me as unreasonable because I want people to be on time, unless they have a good reason not to be, is naive and immature.

I think you’re wrong.

I specifically gave an example of when I would listen to reason.

Being late because you can’t be fucked to get out of bed is a laziness problem, and someone trying to make it my problem (by being late) is inconsiderate at best. Not interested.

Being late because of an event outside of your ability to predict or control is reasonable.

If you can’t tell the difference then, again, that’s your problem and you’re right I don’t want to work with or be friends with you.

I think there’s a nuance here that’s difficult for me to express. Explanations aren’t wrong - not having a good reason to break the rules is wrong. The nuance is: what makes a good reason?

Your situation isn’t a contradiction or counter to what I said. You have a different perception of persistent. If they were late for school every day because the bus never ran then you would presumably tell them to get the earlier bus so that they didn’t miss an hour of school every day? Or if that was impossible you would discuss it an agree different expectations. This alters the definition of “late”. You wouldn’t simply accept that they are late every day - that would be irresponsible and make you a poor teacher.

That’s how friendship works and I’m fine with it. Not everyone has to be friends.

If you work for me though, you work on the principle that you will always do your best effort to turn up on time - and if you can’t even manage that then I’m not interested in you being part of my team and so we’ll be parting ways. This kind of thing tends to be surfaced during the interview stage and if it didn’t it’d surface in the first few months and so one of us would choose to terminate the contract. That’s also fine; you don’t have to like the people you work with and you don’t have to work with people you don’t like.

I see no problems with the fact that our values are different.

I’m curious what you mean by ND. Surely there are a whole host of different types of divergence many of which will have no impact on this?

I am NT (afaik) but I find some things completely incomprehensible to me.

I think people who are always late and always giving excuses for lateness are the assholes. Sort yourself out and turn up on time. Unless there’s a reason of course, but I can’t think of a good reason to be consistently late.

I appreciate ND people have challenges. NT people do too.

Assholes bully people. It is only the reason (excuse) that changes.

I don’t think ND even needs to be discussed in this thread. NT folks are struggling to answer the OP just as much as ND people are.

It’s nuanced and that is an important part of the fabric of the human condition. We all struggle with it to different degrees.

That’s a common reply of children. Usually they learn to not reply like that.

It’s interesting that in this thread people are mostly assuming the person saying that’s “an excuse” is being unreasonable, just because the person posting is ND.

If the OP is persistently late for work and they often give shit “excuses” like “the bus was late” then I would react similarly to what the OP described. It’s an excuse, not a reason, because you can solve it but have chosen not to: for instance you could leave earlier to ensure that even if the bus is late, you’re still on time.

I never get the train that gets me somewhere “on time” I always get the train that gets me there early, because I find it important enough to be punctual that I don’t make excuses.

Woops I flipped it in my reply, have edited!

Hmm I think you’re over generalising NT and ND here and making ND sound like they’re always the victims.

Or if it’s a shit reason.

Are you sure you can’t come in anyway? Janice didn’t turn up either and we’re really stretched.

Has it not? Are you sure the bubble isn’t just 1 light second away? Anything travelling towards you at the speed of light is not perceptible until it hits you. This is why the ability to accelerate something to FTL speeds would be an unstoppable super weapon and most likely lead to interstellar species destroying one another until only 1 remains. Or at least that’s my take.

Societal collapse will happen before human extinction. One way or another everything is going to sort itself out.

However I would prefer that we sort it out and use our might to reverse the damage already done. Otherwise a lot of people (rich and poor) are going to die (and are already dying)

That’s a bugger! Maybe report it as an issue on their github so you can track when it’s fixed?

Never used GrapheneOS. Did it export and import okay? Looks like not.