I’m quite fond of communism, personally.

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  • Would you approve of AI if companies bought licenses from the artists in their training data? Is this the underlying issue for you, that capitalists aren’t playing by their own rules? This is a reasonable grievance but it’s hardly communist.

    Regarding labor, don’t you want people to work less? Yes the machine takes less manpower than a human. That’s potentially liberatory. Of course under bourgeois rule, this technology is used to suppress the wages of artists. But that’s true for everything, which is why the problem is capitalism itself and why we shouldn’t cede control of this new technology to capitalists.

    Also I don’t mean to put words in your mouth. I asked those questions to get you to think about how the anti-plagiarism laws you want for AI would manifest in real life. And I said that you’re an advocate for expanding intellectual property because you’re implying that artists should have more protections against having their work copied. When an artist’s work cannot be copied without the right granted to you, then they hold the copyright, a form of IP. This is shortsighted because those who are most able to defend their IPs and who have the most IPs to defend are not solo artists, but corporations. Broaden copyright laws and you’re directly giving power to Disney and the like.

    P.S. chill out, damn. You’re being snarky as hell when both me are memorable have been formal with you. I’m not trying to dunk on you and this isn’t reddit.


  • It for sure seems like this topic sucks the theory out of comrades and turns them into mini Mickey mice, ready to kill to protect the sanctity of their IP. It’s either that or they’ll suddenly embrace idealism because pictures are only meaningful when they’re metaphysically imbued with human spirit or whatever.

    In real life, this doesn’t bother me because I’m surrounded by libs. But it is aggravating how common reaction is on here and hexbear. I don’t understand how avid pirates can be so attached to intellectual property laws.


  • Copyright is one of the 4 types of intellectual property. Your misguided defense of the individual author strengthens publishing companies instead, since they own the means of production to copy and have the lawyers to litigate such violations.

    Also you misunderstand how the technology works. Generative AI does not function by copying the data it was trained on, but by using the trends it noticed in that data to piece together something original. Examine the code of whichever LLM and you will never find any books, pictures, or movies stored within. It’s a sophisticated network of associations and dissociations.

    Now you might then argue that these generalized statistics also constitute plagiarism, but consider what that entails. If mimicry is criminal, should it then be illegal for artists to imitate another’s style? Should musicians be able to patent chord progressions and leitmotifs? Should genres be property?

    Your stance against AI is boxed within the existing bourgeois framework of creative ownership which I hope you agree is awful. I understand the precarity that this tech creates for artists but expanding IP will empower, not weaken, the companies that exploit them.


  • For what it’s worth I’m with you on this one. There’s a lot of robot-bashing on the left when fundamentally the complaints are about the commodification of art, not about the tools used to make it. It’s frankly unmarxist to stand against AI, at least generally. I really hope no one here will die on the hill that “intellectual property” is real.






  • Another example is birria, a Mexican dish made from stewed goat meat. The name literally translates to “garbage/worthless” and was created out of desperation by the natives.

    Along with other livestock, the conquistadors introduced goats to Mexico, but unlike the other livestock, goats became an invasive species. They bred rapidly and ate everything, including harvests, which worsened famines. So even though goat meat was considered tough, disgusting, and taboo (hence the name) indigenous Mexicans began to eat them for survival.

    Birria is absolutely delicious though. 100/10 food. Fuck the Spanish