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  • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zonetoScience Memes@mander.xyzI dunno
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    6 days ago

    Maths is so much more malleable and abstract than what you think it is. You really do not understand maths as well as you think you do, and I feel a bit sad for any student of yours that would wish to explore some deeper revelations of maths, just to be told “nope! That’s just how it is!” with no further thinking at all.

    A lot of maths is chosen. Choices with good motivation, but choices nonetheless. So long as there not being contradictions or paradoxes, the formulation of a form of math is valid. Which is why you have different forms of maths with different rules.

    And you really could use some more humility, it’s obnoxious when you act all so high and mighty and arrogant, with no interest in questioning your assumptions. Devolving into ridiculing the person you’re discussing with and a general vibe of “omfg I’m right you fucking idiot because I’m right how dumb can you get??”

    Like, what is it that you want here, a book from the 700s of the one dude that invented arithmetics and told clearly “I chose this.”? You are making your arguments effectively unfalsifiable by just going “Nuh uh” all the time.

    Get some humility and learn a bit about the foundations of maths. Like. Down to set theory. See for yourself what actually is the foundation. And, spoiler, it’s not a high school textbook. Hopefully I do not need to tell you how concepts are simplified for younger students, instead of overwhelming them with the complete knowledge of a subject.



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    6 days ago

    That’s a very simplistic view of maths. It’s convention https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations

    Just because a definition of an operator contains another operator, does not require that operator to take precedence. As you pointed out, 2+3*4 could just as well be calculated to 5*4 and thus 20. There’s no mathematical contradiction there. Nothing broke. You just get a different answer. This is all perfectly in line with how maths work.

    You can think of operators as functions, in that case, you could rewrite 2+3*4 as add(2, mult(3, 4)), for typical convention. But it could just as well be mult(add(2, 3), 4), where addition takes precedence. Or, similarly, for 2*3+4, as add(mult(2, 3), 4) for typical convention, or mult(2, add(3, 4)), where addition takes precedence. And I hope you see how, in here, everything seems to work just fine, it just depends on how you rearrange things. This sort of functional breakdown of operators is much closer to mathematical reality, and our operators is just convention, to make it easier to read.

    Something in between would be requiring parentheses around every operator, to enforce order. Such as (2+(3*4)) or ((2+3)*4)


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    6 days ago

    The rules are socially agreed upon. They are not a mathematical truth. There is nothing about the order of multiple different operators in the definition of the operators themselves. An operator is simply just a function or mapping, and you can order those however you like. All that matters is just what calculation it is that you’re after




  • Be kind as a starting point, but don’t force yourself to be kind if they’re not kind back. Tit-for-tat game strategy

    But starting out with kindness is crucial. As well as being kind again if they start being kind. You must give people the benefit of the doubt

    It’s no coincidence that this game theory strategy is highly effective in practice. You could even say that this is the foundation of human society and success


  • I’m pretty similar to this. And I also didn’t expect to follow relationship anarchy

    In the end, I was just following along towards the logical conclusion of what I thought of relationships, and what felt right to me. And maybe it’s because I already look at the world from an anarchist lens, but as you said, if there’s any issue with a partner, then that is between them and me, and I don’t feel like it’s necessarily relevant for me what is happening between them and someone else (so long as they’re like, decent enough people that I’m okay associating with)

    Paradoxically, it makes me feel safer in a relationship. I know they’re not just with me out of a sense of obligation, but because they genuinely enjoy bring with me, same way a friend is. They’re not beholden to some social contract, and are perfectly free to pursue another connection in addition to ours if they feel it’s right. And same for me. It means that I don’t have to feel like I have to artificially stop myself if I meet someone I like. It’s liberating. It’s what I could describe as a feeling of freedom. But of course, freedom does not mean freedom from responsibilities. It doesn’t give you the right to neglect people

    Then there’s things like, not having all your eggs in your basket, or having people who engage with different aspects of yourself, and so on. Though that’s less central

    But of course, there’s practical limits. We don’t have infinite time or energy. Freedom only goes so far. But it’s important to me that I don’t feel restrained by social concepts of how a relationship should look like, but rather from simply what me and a partner would want in one. And freedom does have a price. It’s not freedom for everyone, and it is less stable. It’s just that for me it’s worth it, and feels quite right