I hate Node and NPM so much that I have a physical reaction to just seeing the words now.
I already disliked Node & NPM quite a bit, but the hatred and disgust got to the point it is now after having to write a CI/CD pipeline in Groovy/Jenkins for a Node site that that our devs were building. I had to automate the build/deployment of Satan’s favorite framework in Satan’s favorite language. I came pretty close to quitting.
It’s out the door now, but I’m in the middle of reimplementing the pipeline in Github Actions so I don’t drink myself to death when they come knocking to do it again.
I feel like a good portion of people hate many languages, tbh. This is at least partially because they’re often forced to use them based on company mandates, rather than their own volition.
It’s missing a lot of things that people really care about (with good reason) like static typing. But I think a lot of dislike also comes from it being more of a functional programming language and not object oriented. I like it because it’s like scheme or lisp but with a C like syntax that I find easier to read. I also like that I can do dynamic stuff with websites. In some ways it’s the perfect scripting language for the web. Just as messy and unpredictable as html.
There are “classes” (syntatic sugar over prototyping) that allow OOP in JS, so I don’t think why people would dislike it for the lack of OOP, unless they’re using ES5.
Oh, yeah. When people discover shallow clone vs deep clone is when shit hits the fan. Though anyone that comes from a C background shouldn’t fall on those traps either way.
Why? lol
Terrible type system, terrible standard library, terrible compatibility and lack of many features, compared to C# for example.
All of those things are by design and comparing JS to a fully fledged OOP language is just the sign of a clueless developer.
The JS standard is well defined and compatibility has nothing to do with the language itself
That makes it even worse.
Lots of languages are typeless and the standard library is weak because web (NodeJS is good but
npmis shit)I hate Node and NPM so much that I have a physical reaction to just seeing the words now.
I already disliked Node & NPM quite a bit, but the hatred and disgust got to the point it is now after having to write a CI/CD pipeline in Groovy/Jenkins for a Node site that that our devs were building. I had to automate the build/deployment of Satan’s favorite framework in Satan’s favorite language. I came pretty close to quitting.
It’s out the door now, but I’m in the middle of reimplementing the pipeline in Github Actions so I don’t drink myself to death when they come knocking to do it again.
And this makes sane programmers sad.
You lost me at “compared to C#”. C# is pure garbage.
Can you elaborate on this?
I feel like a good portion of people hate many languages, tbh. This is at least partially because they’re often forced to use them based on company mandates, rather than their own volition.
I think the whole ecosystem around the language is enough to understand it sucks. The tools, the build system, etc. Plus, I don’t like Microsoft.
I mean old school Visual Studio made it restrictive in the past.
I figured with VS Code, .NET core, NuGet and stuff made it better.
I won’t fight back on MS hatred.
What’s wrong with the tools? Rider is the best IDE I’ve used, visual studio it’s that bad ether
Yeah what’s the hate against JS? Did it steal your wife?
JavaScript burned our crops, poisoned our supply, and delivered a plague unto our houses
It did?
No, but are we going to wait around until it does?
Let’s get the pitch forks and lynch that mf!
It’s missing a lot of things that people really care about (with good reason) like static typing. But I think a lot of dislike also comes from it being more of a functional programming language and not object oriented. I like it because it’s like scheme or lisp but with a C like syntax that I find easier to read. I also like that I can do dynamic stuff with websites. In some ways it’s the perfect scripting language for the web. Just as messy and unpredictable as html.
There are “classes” (syntatic sugar over prototyping) that allow OOP in JS, so I don’t think why people would dislike it for the lack of OOP, unless they’re using ES5.
Some would say that until you’ve played “guess whether my clone still points back to the original object” in JavaScript, you’ve never really lived.
That said, I understand I’m supposed to start using TupeScript for that, so I’ll shut up about it.
Oh, yeah. When people discover shallow clone vs deep clone is when shit hits the fan. Though anyone that comes from a C background shouldn’t fall on those traps either way.