New in this release
This release upgrades TagLib to 2.0, improving tag importing in general.
Also general improvements to Jukebox mode, Reverse Proxy authentication, more OpenSubsonic compatibility...
If you tell me what general self hosted community you’re not subscribed to, I’ll confine my posts to there so that they don’t bother you.
EDIT: Someone was kind enough to explain that sometimes no matter how pure your intentions, it’s how things are perceived that matters.
Ultimately I wanted to avoid confrontation and in doing so, it was easy to read my comment as being snarky or confrontational and violence begets violence.
I honestly just wanted to post updates in a community whereby they may help people by keeping them informed. Alas, things escalated and one wrong step and all subsequent steps will be wrong too. Hence me trying to explain and everyone feeling I was being unreasonable.
I think someone even said they were blocking me in what in my head amounted to me saying hey, take the playground and keep my ball and I’ll go and play somewhere else.
I had a long weekend and just wanted to chill and I think people interpreted that as me being dismissive.
I wholeheartedly believe that the beauty of Lemmy is that there are different flavours like desktop environments that do things differently. I didn’t feel it was appropriate for me to try and say this or any community I didn’t create should do things my way and so was happy to hop around until I found a good fit. In hindsight, I could’ve and should’ve explained that.
Apologies for bringing the community into disrepute.
Don’t think it was meant the way you interpreted it. A little tagline/description just adds a lot of value to a post.
Something like this:
Navidrome is an open source web-based music collection server and streamer. It gives you freedom to listen to your music collection from any browser or mobile device. It’s like your personal Spotify!
I feel that self-hosted communities are full of smart and capable people with the ability to click a link. That said, If I degraded the user experience of the community subscribers I’m happy to remove myself. There are more than enough general self hosted communities on Lemmy, each of them fit different groups to different degrees. If it’s so important to the members of this community to post descriptions, I’m happy to post in a community where it won’t impact the enjoyment of members.
I think all of the communities would rather have something more than just a bare link. I’m not sure why you’re responding with such indignation, to be honest, it was a perfectly reasonable suggestion, politely made.
This feels like such a confrontational question. I’m irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. I’m sure other people will post the releases in a manner that meet the very reasonable expectations.
Because I was exasperated and happy to remove myself.
For months I was posting updates over at Lemmy World, then someone one day decided they needed descriptions. So after some arguing back and forth, I decided to remove myself. I start posting here and rather than argue or get into a back and forth, I decide to ask for somewhere else. Little did I know that by trying to back out away from the issue, I was inadvertently causing more issues. I feel like Jackie Chan in one of his old films whereby he tries to back away from a fight and it’s taken as an insult by the folk in the restaurant and erupts into a massive fight.
I am sorry others didn’t hear you. I saw your edit and I think it makes sense. I hope you feel better soon. Emotions are a wild ride. I know from experience.
Dear OP, this whole conversation makes me think of the bullying towards open source developers, which can be seen on and off since years.
Let me also share what I have seen on Mastodon : Unlike on Lemmy, Mastodon has had support for ALT text descriptions for uploaded images for some time. Several people have been complaining when people do not add such ALT text, and even bots were made, that you could choose to follow, for people to have themselves reminded that they forgot to add ALT to an image. What I have seen several times is that people were helpful by responding and giving an ALT suggestion to the OP. That would be complaining and helping in one.
Here in this post conversation several people have asked OP for descriptions and then some tension came up. None of the people complaining took some time to add a description themselves and appear to want to make the OP do extra work.And I understand that the OP is not obliged to do that extra work. Regardless of all this I think that a nice solution here would be if OP or someone else creates a new Lemmy community with a name like e.g. selfhosted_software_releases (For open source software releases there is a Lemmy community like that. Can’t be bothered to search for the name now) which is only for software releases for self hosting. Then this and other selfhosted Lemmy community can have the announcement of that new selfhosted_software_releases Lemmy community as a pinned post or in the sidebar. The advantages of that :
OP and others will not need to add descriptions
Interested people can quickly see when there’s been new releases
Others can have a peek at software names they never heard of before and dive into the details
Selfhosted communities will go back to peace mode ;-)
Good afternoon. Vitriol? I’m not sure how you interpreted my post, but my intention was that in order to preserve the user experience of the person making the request, I would post elsewhere. That’s a concession I’m happy to make.
It’s a small text addition for context, not a big ask. Most of these upgrade posts in this community have people asking the same thing, so they can discover new software.
I’m genuinely unsure in which way I could possibly sound nicer telling someone that I’m willing to go anywhere where something that they don’t like doesn’t effect them?
On the off chance that you truly don’t understand:
The nice thing to do would be to accept the feedback and add a short description. It’s confusing to others why you are staunchly opposed to performing that small courtesy, and instead jump to never posting here again.
Just for the record, I’ve not said that anyone is being unreasonable. In fact I’ve not criticised anyone. If anything, I’m agreeing that the request is reasonable. I’m not trying to change to force it. I’m literally just trying to extract myself from a situation because peace of mind is a beautiful thing.
Some people see three extra clicks (which is what it took on mobile to get the real description out of GitHub) as a limiter. I actually clicked because I had guessed that with a name like “navidrome” it was something GNSS related, was surprised to see it was about music.
I’ve been self hosting for going on 7-8y, following various communities on reddit and Lemmy and I learn about new softwares every day. I’ll have to toss this one on my investigation queue.
Somewhat halfway between practical use and just messing around for fun.
Several years ago I built a GPS NTP clock out of an RPi3 and an Adafruit GPS hat. Once I had the PPS driver installed, it’s precision/drift got pretty good. According to its own self measurements, I got pretty dang close to NIST stratum 1 NTP servers, but those are hundreds of miles away so that measurement isn’t super precise. It’s still running today, clocking nearly 24/7 operation since (checks shopping history) 2017, though I replaced the breadboard and mini module with a full sized hat with the same chipset in 2021.
Recently I acquired a proper hardware GPS clock and I stacked the two against each other and found out my RPi did not half bad and can get between 0.5-10ms of the professionals (literally I’m pretty sure I’d need more precise measuring equipment to tell the difference between the two at this point than a regular computer). Now my homelab has fully redundant internet-disconneted stratum 1 time. Been half considering if I could write a GPSD driver for it as a joke, but I know upstream won’t accept it because it doesn’t offer SOOO many features they’d need.
As for what else - I just kind of keep an eye out for projects related to GPS and high precision time, like the open source atomic PCI card that was released a few years ago. Finding out what people are doing to get better and better time is just downright interesting.
Outside of the time world, it’s just fun to see what projects people come up with relating to maps and navigation. Stretch goal once I have enough server horsepower is to make a render-capable Open Street Map server with my home region loaded to start with, but eventually I’d like to get it to the point where I can load and process world.osm. That… Requires a LOT of CPU and SSD space.
If you tell me what general self hosted community you’re not subscribed to, I’ll confine my posts to there so that they don’t bother you.EDIT: Someone was kind enough to explain that sometimes no matter how pure your intentions, it’s how things are perceived that matters.
Ultimately I wanted to avoid confrontation and in doing so, it was easy to read my comment as being snarky or confrontational and violence begets violence.
I honestly just wanted to post updates in a community whereby they may help people by keeping them informed. Alas, things escalated and one wrong step and all subsequent steps will be wrong too. Hence me trying to explain and everyone feeling I was being unreasonable.
I think someone even said they were blocking me in what in my head amounted to me saying hey, take the playground and keep my ball and I’ll go and play somewhere else.
I had a long weekend and just wanted to chill and I think people interpreted that as me being dismissive.
I wholeheartedly believe that the beauty of Lemmy is that there are different flavours like desktop environments that do things differently. I didn’t feel it was appropriate for me to try and say this or any community I didn’t create should do things my way and so was happy to hop around until I found a good fit. In hindsight, I could’ve and should’ve explained that.
Apologies for bringing the community into disrepute.
Don’t think it was meant the way you interpreted it. A little tagline/description just adds a lot of value to a post. Something like this:
(taken directly from the repo) or
Could you add one?
I feel that self-hosted communities are full of smart and capable people with the ability to click a link. That said, If I degraded the user experience of the community subscribers I’m happy to remove myself. There are more than enough general self hosted communities on Lemmy, each of them fit different groups to different degrees. If it’s so important to the members of this community to post descriptions, I’m happy to post in a community where it won’t impact the enjoyment of members.
Hey there!, No need to take it personally. Thanks for the post, I happen to know what navidrome is and found this post helpful.
A tag would be helpful for others, not required but I think the feedback came from a good place.
🫶🏾
I think all of the communities would rather have something more than just a bare link. I’m not sure why you’re responding with such indignation, to be honest, it was a perfectly reasonable suggestion, politely made.
It was a reasonable request, hence me saying that I’ll go elsewhere.
So you think it’s too unreasonable for you to cope with?
This feels like such a confrontational question. I’m irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. I’m sure other people will post the releases in a manner that meet the very reasonable expectations.
I don’t think you are causing any problems by not posting a small description of the project.
Sounds like you just don’t want to, why not just say that?
Because I was exasperated and happy to remove myself.
For months I was posting updates over at Lemmy World, then someone one day decided they needed descriptions. So after some arguing back and forth, I decided to remove myself. I start posting here and rather than argue or get into a back and forth, I decide to ask for somewhere else. Little did I know that by trying to back out away from the issue, I was inadvertently causing more issues. I feel like Jackie Chan in one of his old films whereby he tries to back away from a fight and it’s taken as an insult by the folk in the restaurant and erupts into a massive fight.
I am sorry others didn’t hear you. I saw your edit and I think it makes sense. I hope you feel better soon. Emotions are a wild ride. I know from experience.
I just wanted to say thank you. This was such a kind and compassionate reply.
Dear OP, this whole conversation makes me think of the bullying towards open source developers, which can be seen on and off since years. Let me also share what I have seen on Mastodon : Unlike on Lemmy, Mastodon has had support for ALT text descriptions for uploaded images for some time. Several people have been complaining when people do not add such ALT text, and even bots were made, that you could choose to follow, for people to have themselves reminded that they forgot to add ALT to an image. What I have seen several times is that people were helpful by responding and giving an ALT suggestion to the OP. That would be complaining and helping in one. Here in this post conversation several people have asked OP for descriptions and then some tension came up. None of the people complaining took some time to add a description themselves and appear to want to make the OP do extra work.And I understand that the OP is not obliged to do that extra work. Regardless of all this I think that a nice solution here would be if OP or someone else creates a new Lemmy community with a name like e.g. selfhosted_software_releases (For open source software releases there is a Lemmy community like that. Can’t be bothered to search for the name now) which is only for software releases for self hosting. Then this and other selfhosted Lemmy community can have the announcement of that new selfhosted_software_releases Lemmy community as a pinned post or in the sidebar. The advantages of that :
🫶🏾
I use Navidrome myself, and I still think it would be nice for people to know a little bit about the software in an update announcement post.
Seems like a very reasonable request, I don’t grok the vitriol in your response.
Good afternoon. Vitriol? I’m not sure how you interpreted my post, but my intention was that in order to preserve the user experience of the person making the request, I would post elsewhere. That’s a concession I’m happy to make.
You know what you sounded like.
It’s a small text addition for context, not a big ask. Most of these upgrade posts in this community have people asking the same thing, so they can discover new software.
Ultimately, though, it’s your choice.
I’m genuinely unsure in which way I could possibly sound nicer telling someone that I’m willing to go anywhere where something that they don’t like doesn’t effect them?
On the off chance that you truly don’t understand:
The nice thing to do would be to accept the feedback and add a short description. It’s confusing to others why you are staunchly opposed to performing that small courtesy, and instead jump to never posting here again.
Me: does something
Someone: hey, do that another way
Me: If you tell me where you won’t see it, I’ll go do it my way there as I like doing things my way
Someone else: You’re being rude
Me: I’m just saying I’ll go somewhere else
You: The nice thing to do would be forced labour
Me:
You: [ copy pastes link ]
Others: Hey, can you also tell us what that link points towards?
You: wHaT iS tHiS, a BoLsHeViK LaBoR CaMp?
This genuinely made me laugh
Congrats on all the labor you saved.
If you think folks here are uniquely unreasonable you could try lemmy.world/c/selfhosted .
Just for the record, I’ve not said that anyone is being unreasonable. In fact I’ve not criticised anyone. If anything, I’m agreeing that the request is reasonable. I’m not trying to change to force it. I’m literally just trying to extract myself from a situation because peace of mind is a beautiful thing.
I’m impressed. Thank you. Class act
Heyo, just wanted to say I appreciate the edit.
Some people see three extra clicks (which is what it took on mobile to get the real description out of GitHub) as a limiter. I actually clicked because I had guessed that with a name like “navidrome” it was something GNSS related, was surprised to see it was about music.
I’ve been self hosting for going on 7-8y, following various communities on reddit and Lemmy and I learn about new softwares every day. I’ll have to toss this one on my investigation queue.
What do you use the GNSS stuff for? A quick Google told me it was like GPS?
Somewhat halfway between practical use and just messing around for fun.
Several years ago I built a GPS NTP clock out of an RPi3 and an Adafruit GPS hat. Once I had the PPS driver installed, it’s precision/drift got pretty good. According to its own self measurements, I got pretty dang close to NIST stratum 1 NTP servers, but those are hundreds of miles away so that measurement isn’t super precise. It’s still running today, clocking nearly 24/7 operation since (checks shopping history) 2017, though I replaced the breadboard and mini module with a full sized hat with the same chipset in 2021.
Recently I acquired a proper hardware GPS clock and I stacked the two against each other and found out my RPi did not half bad and can get between 0.5-10ms of the professionals (literally I’m pretty sure I’d need more precise measuring equipment to tell the difference between the two at this point than a regular computer). Now my homelab has fully redundant internet-disconneted stratum 1 time. Been half considering if I could write a GPSD driver for it as a joke, but I know upstream won’t accept it because it doesn’t offer SOOO many features they’d need.
As for what else - I just kind of keep an eye out for projects related to GPS and high precision time, like the open source atomic PCI card that was released a few years ago. Finding out what people are doing to get better and better time is just downright interesting.
Outside of the time world, it’s just fun to see what projects people come up with relating to maps and navigation. Stretch goal once I have enough server horsepower is to make a render-capable Open Street Map server with my home region loaded to start with, but eventually I’d like to get it to the point where I can load and process world.osm. That… Requires a LOT of CPU and SSD space.
Reading that has just brightened up my morning. That’s super bloody cool!