• CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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    7 months ago

    Why is this getting upvoted?

    Because there are people who really don’t like how right wing conservative Christians behave, but also for some reason hate when other Christians agree that the behaviour is unacceptable and call them out on it.

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      7 months ago

      You’re not calling out shit. You’re refusing any responsibility by claiming they’re not even really Christian. They are, and until you admit that, nobody gives a fuck about your claims to the contrary. Christians can be shit, that doesn’t make them not Christian you absolute dingus. If you’d actually read the Bible you’d know that slavery and homophobia and sexism are as fundamentally Christian as any love thy neighbor shit

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        7 months ago

        Republicans: Act in hateful ways

        Guy: “That behavior is contrary to the book you claim to follow”

        Everyone: cheers

        Christian: “I agree!”

        You: “nO tRuE sCoTsMaN!!!1!”

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          7 months ago

          ???

          You suck at telling stories like this lmao, you’re the one no true scotsmaning shitty Christians to try and avoid any flak for being associated with them. Legit this comment is utterly incomprehensible, tf is your point? Who’s guy? Who’s everyone? I assure you far from everyone thinks that republicans aren’t real Christians

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            7 months ago

            Let me simplify it for you:

            The argument that everyone who claims to be a Christian is a Christian, and also every Christian belongs to the same group and is responsible for the actions of everyone who claims to be a Christian, is patently absurd.

            You can have two people with wildly different beliefs, but if they both use the label Christian somehow they are both responsible for the actions of each other.

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              7 months ago

              Those people also call themselves Christian tho, and probably call you a fake Christian. That’s a big thing in Christianity, insisting that your brand of it is the only valid one. Yall are silly as hell, admit that there are shitty christians or accept that we don’t give a shit about your half ass condemnations of shitty christians

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                7 months ago

                Okay: there are shitty Christians.

                Now what? Do I now have permission to call out their shitty behaviour and not somehow be responsible for it myself?

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                  7 months ago

                  You can and absolutely should call them out. You can call them fake Christians if you want I guess, but that’s not really calling them out, it’s clear you’re just saying it to make yourself look better. No matter what your take on them is, I know for a fact that they’re Christian, and you trying to cut them off from yourself like that just makes me think you’re a lot closer to them than you’re letting on. I can hardly think of any times I’ve seen Muslims deny that the Taliban are real Muslims, or Jews deny that zionists are real Jews. Why is it so hard for Christians to do the same?

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                    7 months ago

                    You can call them fake Christians if you want I guess

                    Okay, so we agree that if someone says “This behaviour is not in line with the teaching of Christianity” then someone responding with just the words “No True Scotsman” is stupid, useless, and contrary to the point?

                    you trying to cut them off from yourself like that just makes me think you’re a lot closer to them than you’re letting on

                    “You trying to say your beliefs are not they same as their beliefs makes me think… you have the same beliefs”? How does that logic hold up? Someone directly saying “They are not representative of what I believe” means they ARE representative somehow?

                    I can hardly think of any times I’ve seen Muslims deny that the Taliban are real Muslims

                    Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/islam/comments/16hpv7s/comment/k0h6q7z/

                    or Jews deny that zionists are real Jews

                    Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/Judaism/comments/18j3yfz/not_a_real_jew/