I am not a native English speaker and I have sometimes referred to people as male and female (as that is what I have been taught) but I have received some backlash in some cases, especially for the word “female”, is there some negative thought in the word which I am unaware of?

I don’t know if this is the best place to ask, if it’s not appropriate I have no problem to delete it ^^

  • Quastamaza@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    Oh dear… And why isn’t “a male” just as bad? And what’s intrinsically wrong about those two as a noun? Why is it ok to call someone “a fire fighter“, “a journalist”, and not “a female”? Is it something to feel shame about? Bah. It’s really beyond me. Thank god i live in Italy, where this kind of stuff still struggles to gain traction, but alas it will do eventually, since hey, you know, we’re all living in america after all. What’s more, it’s not entirely true: now you can get scolded even for using female as an adjective (it happened to me more than once), my friend. And it’ll get worse, just you wait and see.

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      8 months ago

      And why isn’t “a male” just as bad?

      It is.

      And what’s intrinsically wrong about those two as a noun?

      Because you’re reducing people to their characteristics of identity.

      Why is it ok to call someone “a fire fighter“, “a journalist”, and not “a female”?

      Because those are characteristics of their chosen functions.

      It seems pretty easy to me, and I’m not even a native speaker.

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        8 months ago

        It is.

        Okay, that’s your opinion, not mine. If opinions still exist, that is.

        Because you’re reducing people to their characteristics of identity.

        And having innate characteristics is horrible… unbelievable. I must be really old.

        It seems pretty easy to me, and I’m not even a native speaker.

        Ok, you’re right, you’re reeeally smart. Well done. I quit, have the last say.

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      8 months ago

      “I had coffee with one of the males at work”

      “There’s a male waiting for you downstairs”

      “I need to see a male about a dog”

      All of them would be weird as fuck, and yes, they’d sound demeaning. They don’t have the same weird-incel vibe, but that’s just an accident of culture.

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        8 months ago

        Right. This is the best way to figure out if it sounds weird.

        If you would use “man” then the word to use is “woman”. If you would use “male” then “female”.

        So if someone asks is the doctor male or female? No problem. Even if they ask “is the doctor a male or a female?” Still no problem. Kinda odd but certainly not offensive.

        The problem arises when someone says “men and females” that does sound weird and kinda insulting. As would “women and males”.

        If you would use the word man, use woman.

        If you would use the word male, use female.

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      8 months ago

      Typical male behavior!

      There’s no reason for you to feel attacked by the previous sentence, right?