EDIT: please, if you don’t agree with the arguments in the video, come in and discuss, don’t just downvote the thread.

I found this video with many arguments supporting self-diagnosis validity and wanted to share.

Main point may be that there is no valid reason to look for a self-diangosis than the fact of being autistic, and needing support for that. At least until there will be equitable access to medical care, self-diagnosis is the only way for people to understand themself and understand the support they may need in their life.

But, there is much more in the video, take a look at it by yourself!

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    Lol, no. Only because a guy did a well put together video it doesn’t make it a valid argument. That’s just fucking dumb and wrong. Self-diagnosis might be good for you to get interested on the subject and then get a professional take, but that it’s it.

    “Doctors make wrong diagnosis all the time”

    Killing and stealing are still illegal even if there are people who don’t obey the rules.

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      Self-diagnosis might be good for you to get interested on the subject and then get a professional take, but that it’s it.

      and what if you can’t get it?

      Killing and stealing are still illegal even if there are people who don’t obey the rules.

      I miss the relevance of this sentence here. Can you elaborate?

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        If you can’t get it you can’t get it, it’s that simple. Some people can’t get any medical assistance at all, and that’s a whole other discussion.

        OK, that sentence you mentioned was weird. What I meant was, the fact that doctors make mistakes don’t make doctors optional. There are legislations and standards for a reason. This argument is silly bacause it can be used for almost anything. Like, why have cops if people keep commiting crimes anyway?

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          What I meant was, the fact that doctors make mistakes don’t make doctors optional

          honestly neither I, nor the author video said that.

          The topic (of this thread and of the video) is “is self-diagnosis valid?”

          To which I would answer: it depends, valid for what?

          • valid for legal accomodation on the workplace/school whatever? To this I would say no
          • valid for national health system treatment? Again, no
          • valid to have a label for others, to share experiences, to discuss, etc? Hell yes

          What do you think about this? Where do you see dangers? Why would you need official medical validation, if you don’t need any official treatment/help?

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            If it’s not valid for legal or health matters how is that valid? Now you are just playing with the meaning of the word.

            Self-diagnosing yourself with autism just because of some unusual behaviors is disrespectful to people who really struggle with the condition.

            If you don’t need treatments or special needs why would you feel the need to be in the same category with people who suffer severe impairment in socialization and everyday activities?

            Find something else to define your own uniqueness, that’s a serious subject.

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              Self-diagnosing yourself with autism just because of some unusual behaviour

              What do you know about the suffering of people who self-diagnose? You are being disrespectful, and arrogant by stating something you don’t know.

              If you don’t need treatments or special needs why would you feel the need to be in the same category with people who suffer severe impairment in socialization and everyday activities?

              There is a lot of people who got officially diagnosed with autism at a later age, and didn’t need any accommodation of treatment. One typical case is when people get diagnosis after their kids get a dianosis. What do you know about their past? How you know they didn’t suffer their condition? Maybe they learned to get around the obstacles with a lot of effort and suffering.

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                Just go to a doctor, dude. Are you scared your shortcomings can’t be justified?

                You clearly don’t know shit about autism and mental health. Social media is not a reliable source of information. Get professional help or formal education and stop embarrassing yourself on the internet.

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                  You clearly don’t know shit about autism and mental health

                  I hope you are a qualified doctor. For sure you write a lot about respect, but “you don’t know a shit” about it.

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              You seem to completely ignore the social aspect. If I spend my whole life an outcast, a weirdo, struggling with social cues, struggling to make friends, overwhelmed by stimuli, I might start to think I’m broken, or personally responsible for my faults.

              Autism explains that well and takes away the blame, as well as being a good summary to others AND a label with which I can find others like me and share/relate to experiences.

              Even if I don’t meet the medical definition, I don’t care, because it’s been such a useful lens and community for me learning about myself.

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                Social aspect ?! LMAO ! It’s an identified mental disorder, not a social group like being emo or goth. You do need to meet a medical definition, please go see a therapist.

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                  You…. Do realize that many symptoms of autism directly and negatively impact social interactions, right? Because that’s what they were saying, and it’s pretty damn clear in context if you have even the slightest awareness of autism. They were not arguing/supporting this straw man you created to attack. That’s just you taking shit out of context and twisting it to make yourself feel right. Poor form.

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                    Let’s make deal, I look up whatever that is and you go study about autism spectrum desorder outside shallow social media posts, how does that sound?