So I did figure out that yes, #Mastodon can federate #Lemmy and #Kbin content. The problem is that Mastodon doesn’t know what to do with it, so it (the group) looks like a user that boosts all posts and comments.

I found myself browsing the “federated group” @selfhosted over on https://kbin.social, as I think Kbin has a nicer UX for it.

I didn’t really want to create a separate account for group stuff, but that might be what we do in the short term. 🤔

  • DoubleCore@lemmy.world
    9·
    1 year ago

    I wrote this in another thread, so copy pasting it here:

    I believe that the limitation is part of the Mastodon app, and not related to the Fediverse. There might be a character limit but I don’t think it’s as limited as Mastodon’s.

    Btw, Mastodon isn’t really fit for this type of conversation. Mastodon aims to replace tweeter - microblogging interaction, where Lemmy aims to replace Reddit - thread interactions.

    Each comment on Lemmy will be treated as microblog on mastodon which isn’t really practical.

    • 3laws@lemmy.world
      22·
      1 year ago

      Except that that sounds like a Mastodon lack of features. Cuz Twitter had threads. As long as you were replying to someone each conversation was a sub thread and so on.

  • Eddie@lucitt.social
    3·
    1 year ago

    I tried my best to use mastodon as a platform to post to lemmy/kbin but ran into a major problem: nested comments get lost to the ether, and there’s no way for you to reply to them using the same account.

    Because of this, and basically this alone, I decided to forfeit mastodon all together and opt for a self hosted lemmy instance. I just got it set up and running this evening and so far, I’m not looking back.

    Might set up another mastodon instance later, but that’s if I start to miss it.

      • Eddie@lucitt.social
        1·
        1 year ago

        Hm, that’s very interesting. I wonder if the platforms will build upon each other with future updates or if they’ll continue to remain “seperate” in terms of formatting and QoL. Very interested in the future of cross platform federation accounts.

          • Eddie@lucitt.social
            2·
            1 year ago

            That sounds to be the most attractive way to fit into the fediverse the way it’s set up right now. I really like how kbin has support for microblogging and link aggregation however I find it hard to interoperate between different platforms like you can on lemmy/mastodon.

            Once a platform nails all of this, I feel like that will be the thing to use in terms of a “master account to rule them all” type deal. That’s what I want anyway >:)

          • ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org
            0·
            1 year ago

            a #Lemmy server requires a fraction of the RAM that a #KBin or Mastodon server does.

            If you want a personal microblogging server, run Pleroma or Akkoma, they are waaaAAAAAY less resource-intensive than Mastodon. Especially after some truly god-awful database queries were fixed in the last few months. (Load on my database server dropped by approximately a factor of 25x!!)

            • Mike Kasprzak 🦖@jammer.socialOP
              1·
              1 year ago

              @ThorrJo @selfhosted lol, I can relate to thay 😆. I run an event & website that was notorious for its poor performance at the beginning and end of events. A few years ago, with our servers ready to fall over, I noticed a certain query was hogging the database server’s CPU. I made the tiniest fix to correctly use indexes, and we instantly went from 400% CPU usage to at most 20% (across 4 cores). 😅

              Though it’s been fixed for ~3 years, I still see folks warning others about the slowness. 😅

        • the_thunder_god@kbin.social
          2·
          1 year ago

          @Eddie I know the kbin dev has been adjusting the federated backend to work better with mastodon. So I think it will all get better, it’ll just take time.

  • NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social
    2·
    1 year ago

    @mike Interesting, I haven’t really messed around too much with Mastodon. I’ve been primarily been using kbin and I’ve been happy with just this so far.

    • Mike Kasprzak 🦖@jammer.socialOP
      1·
      1 year ago

      @NumbersCanBeFun Okay that was unexpected. I managed to post a new topic and reply to Lemmy.world using my Mastodon client. That was supposed to be a “thinking out loud” toot. 😅

      I attached some images to my first reply, but they were ignored. I wonder if my server strips out markdown? 🤔

      * _Test_

      image test

      • NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social
        1·
        1 year ago

        @mike It’s formatted well but whenever I click the link it 404’s on me for kbin. I know the server is getting some big upgrades and is under a lot of strain right now, so that might be a factor to consider, at least as far as kbin is concerned.

  • the_thunder_god@kbin.social
    1·
    1 year ago

    @mike Same boat. I established an account over on Fosstodon during one of the Twitter exoduses. I like the UI more for kbin.social over Lemmy, so I think I’m here to stay. I tried out the federation between the two accounts, and figured out that mastodon really does twitter-like stuff really well. Kbin/Lemmy do reddit-like stuff really well. So I’m planning on just treating them like I treated Twitter and Reddit…as two separate services for different purposes with different UI’s.

    My only issue is that I chose a different name when I signed up on kbin.social/Lemmy to match other accounts I have (one of which I recently changed to be in line with the rest), and it’s not what I have on Fosstodon, but I already moved once to a different instance (used to be on mastodon.social), I don’t really want to change usernames on Fosstodon. Frustrating a bit for me, but I’ll deal.

  • roosmaa@lemmy.sdf.org
    1·
    1 year ago

    Thanks for doing this experiment! I was really curious if it was technically possible (but not using Mastodon so wasn’t able to test it myself), and now I know 😊

    • Mike Kasprzak 🦖@jammer.socialOP
      1·
      1 year ago

      @roosmaa @selfhosted Ha, I’m happy to have helped answer the question. 😆

      This was supposed to just be a toot to my feed sharing that I figured out how to follow groups from Mastodon. I was not expecting to stumble across how to post to groups using Mastodon too. 😅