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      • thermal_shock@lemmy.world
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        4 hours ago

        You don’t think some members may have joined before this administration and got trapped doing this kind of shit?

        Its not like you can just quit, you usually do jail time.

        And if they have a family, are they supposed to just abandon them?

        Help me understand why it’s their fault they were told to do stupid shit with very little recourse.

        • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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          3 hours ago

          You don’t think some members may have joined before this administration and got trapped doing this kind of shit?

          What, when we were occupying Afghanistan for 20 years and slaughtering hundreds of thousands of civilians? What on earth makes you think I only hate them because of who the president is?

          Its not like you can just quit, you usually do jail time.

          Tough shit. A person threatening you with jail time does not justify committing murder.

          And if they have a family, are they supposed to just abandon them?

          Even if they have to, they’d be no worse off than the families of the people they kill. Although, I suppose they often kill the families too, so kind of a bad example.

          Help me understand why it’s their fault they were told to do stupid shit with very little recourse.

          This may be a difficult concept to grasp, but human beings have agency which means that if someone tells you to do something, you don’t actually have to do it, because you are not a robot.

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          3 hours ago

          You saying they joined before a administration did war crimes? So they joined before July 4, 1776?

          Trump is worse, yeah of course. But there is no living USA president that shouldn’t be send to den hauge

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            3 hours ago

            I’m not saying any of that, I’m asking why soldiers deserve to eat trash food. No one can explain it, they just say “they deserve it”

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              US soldiers deserve worse than shit food. Because they’re rapists and murderers. That’s why. They should just be redacted before they rape and kill more innocent people and kids. Same with IDF.

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                    32 minutes ago

                    I’d like to know where you’re getting your info that all us military service members are murderers. Don’t just say they deserve garbage, enlighten me. I’m literally asking and all people do is downvote and repeat it. Feel like this is a group of trumpers defending their cult.

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          3 hours ago

          The US military has been like this for decades though. You could argue ignorance, but at some point you have to take some personal responsibility for your actions.

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          The last time the US military did anything not evil was WWII and that was not really by choice. It’s their fault they were told to do stupid shit because they have at least three generations of murder as examples they could have looked at.

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            2 hours ago

            US straight up turned away diaspora Jews who fled Hitler. Soviets let them in, even tired to warn western countries like UK and so on but The West was ready to let Hitler destroy and conquer Europe so they could be turned on the Communists. The USSR foiled that plan.