• BJW@lemmus.org
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      6 hours ago

      Exactly. It’s all nonsense. But we need to single out this nonsense in particular and hate it. Because it has different potential outcomes…

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        6 hours ago

        It’s not allnnonsense. LLMs are being used to “solve” small problems but pollute way more than normal datacenters, way more than you using your personal computer etc. You seem heavilly invested in denying any bad thing from LLMs …

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          6 hours ago

          Because you conflate data centers with LLM.

          Data centers are bad. LLM are not.

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              5 hours ago

              So you must think the opposite.

              LLM bad, data centers good?

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                5 hours ago

                Black and white thinking. Just like fascists (including tankies).

                LLM bad, data center not inherently good. Humans could get rid of data centers if they get their shit together and distribute instead of just decentralize, similar to how they can establish anarchism the same way. BUT if the ideal were to be assumed impossible (because of course you would), data centers are good at a certain quantity. Peeing is fine, everyone does that. If you pee 8 times a day, go see a doctor.

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                  4 hours ago

                  Dont feed the troll. Read their post history and you’ll see they are either trolling or very delusional.

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                  4 hours ago

                  Uh huh… You just admitted you are the one with black & white thinking by saying LLM are bad. I assure you that the LLM that I use are not bad. They also don’t require a data center. They run locally on my laptop, with no more expenditure of energy than playing a video game. Unless video games are bad, too?

                  We have a difference of opinion because if anything is bad between the two concepts then it’s data centers, not LLMs.

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                    4 hours ago

                    They also don’t require a data center?

                    Did you train them without any data centers though?

                    Unless video games are bad, too?

                    Not really, but whenever choosing a game to play, I am biased towards some of the lesser resource intensive titles like TeeWorlds, Need for Speed: Underground and The Ultimate Shovelware Title: Homebrew Edition rather than, for example, Counter-Strike 2, Forza Horizon or The Ultimate Shovelware Title: Unity Edition.