I’ve been backing up to a dedicated hard disk within the same server for all my backups in case my disks fail. And as I run more and more services, the concern of disks failures grow bigger.

I’m looking for a cheapish off-site backup solution and I’m just curious what everyone does for their 3-2-1 backup solutions.

  • KitchenNo2246@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9·
    3 years ago

    I have a borg server in the office that takes backups of all my servers. Each server stores their applications backup that gets pulled into the repo. On top of that, the borg server pushes the backup to rsync.net.

    All of this is monitored by my Zabbix server

    • VerifiablyMrWonka@kbin.social
      1·
      3 years ago

      Came here to comment this “obscure” combination. That I use. Lol

      Kopia is a solid bit of software. I run it on my VPS’s, my homelab and my desktop/laptops. All to a single Backblaze repo.

    • darmok@darmok.xyz
      1·
      3 years ago

      I just switched to Kopia and B2 a few months back and it is working great so far. I backup my machines with Kopia to a local Unraid box on my network running Kopia server. Then the Kopia repo on the Unraid box is synced up to Backblaze B2 nightly.

      I’m only backing up around 200 GB of data so the B2 storage is something like $1 a month.

  • FineWolf@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    3 years ago

    Restic to Wasabi.

    I used to use Backblaze B2, until I did the maths on how much it would cost me to restore. B2 storage is cheap yes, but the egress is so fucking expensive. It would have cost me hundreds.

    Wasabi storage is equally cheap, and restoring won’t cost me an arm and a leg.

    I use the following scripts for Restic: https://gitlab.com/finewolf-projects/restic-wrapper-scripts

    • D4NM3D@reddthat.comEnglish
      2·
      3 years ago

      wasabi is cheaper than B2 unless…

      • you store less than 1TB (they charge for a minimum of 1TB even if you store nothing)
      • you pay for any data you upload for 90 days minimum… so if you upload 500GB and then delete it within 90 days, you’re paying for it for the duration anyway…
      • You can only download the same amount as you store in a month without incurring egress costs.

      The 3 points above are how they can not charge egress for the majority of people.

  • sudneo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    61·
    3 years ago

    I use restic/borg (depending on servers) and push to a bunch of S3 buckets on Backblaze. This applies to my desktop, my NAS and in general my non-Kubernetes data.

    For Kubernetes I wrote a small tool that…well does the same for PVCs. Packs up the data with restic (soon I hope to migrate to rustic, once the library gets polished) and pushes to Backblaze.

    To give an idea of the pricing, for 730GB, with daily backups or more, I pay approximately $5 a month.

    • celipon@kbin.social
      1·
      3 years ago

      Restic is fantastic. It’s just one binary, has support for various cloud services (including Backblaze which I use as well), snapshots which can be mounted with FUSE. It’s really quite useful. Borg I believe is similar?

      Either way, I feel like today there is no reason to use awkward rsync solutions when better tools are out that have proven themselves.

      • sudneo@lemmy.world
        1·
        3 years ago

        Yeah, borg is very very similar, at least in the context I use it! I agree with the praise of restic, very solid tool. It’s always possible to use rsync…but to sync restic repos!

  • gubxuhki@lemmy.worldEnglish
    61·
    3 years ago

    Do you have any family or friends that are willing to let a small NAS sit around somewhere? Or host a friends backup and return they host your backup? For me, this approach works well and is probably as cheap as it can get. To just backup some data over the internet, any cheap old NAS will do. I have an old NAS sitting at my parents and just manually turn it on when I’m visiting. A small startup script runs rsync without further interaction and shuts down when finished.

  • SheeEttin@lemmy.worldEnglish
    51·
    3 years ago

    Honestly, I don’t. The vast majority of my data is just stuff like Linux ISOs that I could download again. Important documents and stuff like that take up so little space that I just keep them in Google Drive. Most of my personal project work is on GitHub. And while neither of those are technically backups, it’s not a tragic loss if I accidentally delete everything.

    • solstice@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      3 years ago

      Yeah it’s weird, 10+ years ago or so I feel like I had SO MUCH DATA and it was always an issue. Now I really don’t have anything. A few gigs of photos I guess, some various files, but that’s it. I guess I used to have a lot more media like movies and porn, which I don’t really need anymore.

  • Shortcake@kbin.social
    4·
    3 years ago

    i use duplicati to back up configs and data for docker containers to 2 cloud services. my 8 TB server is almost maxed. i need funds to buy a backup for that and expand.

    I know synology (and others probably) have an app where you can back up your data to your friends NAS and vice versa, but that’s taking up their storage too and cost for HDD/SSD may be prohibitive

  • gubxuhki@lemmy.worldEnglish
    62·
    3 years ago

    Do you have any family or friends that are willing to let a small NAS sit around somewhere? Or host a friends backup and return they host your backup? For me, this approach works well and is probably as cheap as it can get. To just backup some data over the internet, any cheap old NAS will do. I have an old NAS sitting at my parents and just manually turn it on when I’m visiting. A small startup script runs rsync without further interaction and shuts down when finished.

  • binwiederhier@discuss.ntfy.shEnglish
    3·
    3 years ago

    Hetzner storage box, and just rsync. It takes care of snapshotting via auto snapshots. I costs like $20 for 1T I think. But there are cheaper options yoo

  • MeowdyPardner@kbin.social
    2·
    3 years ago

    I use rsync.net with a promo that adds 1TB free to a 680GB plan for $10/mo, which is enough for me to sync all my personal artifacts nightly from my synology. I also did a NAS share swap with a friend but it’s less reliable as friends are always changing things on their setups

  • rs5th@lemmy.scottlabs.ioEnglish
    2·
    3 years ago

    I’ve got two synology NASes. My current backup strategy is to backup everything between the two NASes so I have two copies of everything locally. Then I back up documents, photos, pretty much everything except TV shows and movies to Backblaze.

  • surfrock66@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    3 years ago

    Crashplan can’t tell the difference between local folders and NFS mounts, and they have an unlimited size backup plan per device for like $10/month. I have 1 device with NFS mounts from many desktops and my Nas. About 9TB.

    • pirat@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      3 years ago

      Are you saying, theoretically if I had 100s of TB (I don’t… yet!) on mounted drives (local or NFS shares), I could back it all up to Crashplan, and keep the retention as long as the files still exist on my device(s)? Sounds amazing, but what’s the cost of restoring the data? They’re not being very loud about that part on their website.

  • SirMaple_@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    3 years ago

    I have a 2 x 8TB in RAID1 NAS at a family members house and I also have an OVH dedicated server with 2 x 480GB in RAID1 and 2 x 8TB in RAID1. I use rclone for my backups and keep deleted files for 30 days on the NAS and 120 days on the OVH dedicated server. Both the NAS and server connect back to my home network using WireGuard.

    The OVH dedicated server also runs numerous virtual machines that host websites as well as backups of my netbox and mediawiki instance I run at home(they sync nightly).

    • solstice@lemmy.worldEnglish
      34·
      3 years ago

      If you ever get raided by the Feds they’ll probably raid your friends and family’s houses too so it is generally advisable to avoid using friends and family for offsite storage.

        • SirMaple_@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          3 years ago

          I don’t worry about getting raided by the FBI at all since I don’t live in the US lol

          But apparently some people worry about it…but if those same people knew how to protect themselves while using the internet they wouldn’t need to worry at all.

        • solstice@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          3 years ago

          Only if you know no government has ever lasted forever, and think humans are capable of great evil. Even if not…it’s just best practices…think about targeted attacks, corporate espionage, vengeance, things like that.

      • SirMaple_@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        3 years ago

        First they’d need a reason which they won’t find or have.

        Secondly in my 20+ years working in IT and using the internet I’ve never once heard that statement about it being “generally advisable to avoid using friends and family for offsite storage”. Needed a good laugh. Thanks.

      • easeKItMAn@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        3 years ago

        If your data is such valuable, I’m sure you took the time to setup a complete encrypted system (LUKS).