The use of large language models (“LLMs”) has exploded in recent years, including in the generation of source code. But even as their usage gains popularit...
People like you are the reason I gave up on the things getting better. What you people propose has nothing to do with how the world works we live in. It’s all based on how the world should work.
Why would we want to license vibecoded slop code built with a system that is (in most cases) probably and admittedly actively using data from sources with incompatible licences or no licences at all.
probably and admittedly actively using data from sources with incompatible licences or no licences at all
You answered your own question. I don’t know what you try to say, but the article and our discussion is explaining if and why licensing code that is vibe coded is possible or makes sense at all. And you point the problem out that this is problematic and probably not possible in good faith. So its not about what we want, but about if and what is possible.
I don’t think the existence of something bad and needing to deal with that are mutually exclusive. Of course one should tackle the root of a problem. But you still need to bail water while the boat has a hole in it.
But licensing is trying to remove the water without doing anything about the hole. Or, best case situation, saying “we will fix the hole when the water is unmanageable, but for now we’ll just try to empty it faster than it fills”.
If you ban LLMs, the problem will disappear. It’s not like you can really hide a datacenter so easily, or the size of the data required. Anything less than that will do nothing
But it does exist.
Exactly, and that’s where the problem lies and where something needs to be done.
Like licensing?
No, like banning LLMs.
You do live in reality, do you?
Ah yes, the reality that consists in giving up on all proper solutions out of being “down to earth”, effectively solving nothing.
The proper not possible solution… Sure…
People like you are the reason I gave up on the things getting better. What you people propose has nothing to do with how the world works we live in. It’s all based on how the world should work.
Good luck with banning llms, seems realistic.
Yeah, I forgot how easy it is to hide datacenters and massive data collection. Really, really hard to enforce, huh.
What the fuck are you talking about? 🙄
Right but why would we want to license vibecoded slop?
Irrelevant question. For licensing and copyright questions, quality of code is not important.
See Microsoft and Google.
Why would we want to license
vibecoded slopcode built with a system that is (in most cases) probably and admittedly actively using data from sources with incompatible licences or no licences at all.You answered your own question. I don’t know what you try to say, but the article and our discussion is explaining if and why licensing code that is vibe coded is possible or makes sense at all. And you point the problem out that this is problematic and probably not possible in good faith. So its not about what we want, but about if and what is possible.
Indeed, though I was just rephrasing the question from the person you were replying to.
Responded to the wrong comment, apologies.
I don’t think the existence of something bad and needing to deal with that are mutually exclusive. Of course one should tackle the root of a problem. But you still need to bail water while the boat has a hole in it.
But licensing is trying to remove the water without doing anything about the hole. Or, best case situation, saying “we will fix the hole when the water is unmanageable, but for now we’ll just try to empty it faster than it fills”.
If you ban LLMs, the problem will disappear. It’s not like you can really hide a datacenter so easily, or the size of the data required. Anything less than that will do nothing