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    10 months ago

    Hot take but I’m not a fan of the modified pride flag. First, it’s copyrighted. Second is that adding special interests defeats the purpose of making the flag all-inclusive. I get that there is a desire to recognize marginalized groups, but that was the purpose of the rainbow flag to being with. Unfortunately, even attempting discourse on the topic gets you accused of things. Fly what you feel best represents you though. If more people trend toward the modified pride flag then that’s what represents them and what they want.

    Edit: see the reply below, the copyright situation is different than I understood.

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      First, it’s copyrighted.

      Just want to jump on this one quick. I get why this might be an issue but I think it’s a bit of FUD. It’s licensed under Creative Commons to keep corporate bucks off of it, where the original current pride flag is public domain and open to corporate greed.

      CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 Deed

      Progress flags terms of us

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        10 months ago

        Thanks for the info. I see why they did it then. Defensive copyright is fine for a good cause.

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          10 months ago

          It looks like a lot of the copyright flak came from a now deleted tweet that didn’t understand CC licensing. It happens.

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      10 months ago

      As a trans woman, I often feel excluded from pride events (search for tans march at Toronto pride to get an idea where I am coming from) and the progress flag helped me feel included. So it’s what I fly. Removing these marginalized groups and putting your own logo in place is a bit insulting.

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        10 months ago

        As a trans woman, I often feel excluded from pride events

        Because of the basic rainbow flag…?

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          10 months ago

          I never said that. What I said is that it’s nice to see inclusion.

          Why you gotta troll?

          Edit: blocked and moved on.

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            10 months ago

            I warned you lol. Can’t talk about it without someone putting words in your mouth. Trolls, malingerers, and plain old people getting mad.

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              10 months ago

              The reply about me doing the gaslighting was the icing on the cake! Reminds me of Reddit.

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        10 months ago

        If you were excluded, it was by people, not a flag. I get where you’re coming from, but there is nothing wrong with the standard rainbow flag and putting their logo in the same space the progress flag uses isn’t an attack on trans people.

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          10 months ago

          Okay. I’m wrong that the additions made by the progress flag helped me feel included. Thanks for pointing that out.

          My problem is that they used a flag design meant for inclusion and removed the inclusive parts. Why is everyone so upset that I didn’t like it?

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            Who said they used the progress flag? It could very well be based on the rainbow flag.

            And I didn’t say the flag didn’t make you feel included. I said the rainbow flag didn’t exclude you. Those are very different statements. It’s objective vs subjective.

            Your words came off that you felt these people are doing something negative when I’m willing to bet the creators of the flag were trying to be more inclusive. I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt.