I’ll admit I have used Artix, Peppermint OS (Devuan), and Void Linux because I thought the idea of a SystemDless distro sounded cool. It wasn’t because I had a problem with SystemD. It’s more so that I love that numerous options exist for different system components. For me it’s sad to see that certain features or applications require SystemD be present. I like SystemD, just to be clear. I also like the freedom to choose. Maybe, i’m missing something. What do y’all think? What do you use and why? If you use OpenRC or something, why? I’m guessing most people use SystemD and don’t give it any thought which is fair.

  • amlor@piefed.social
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    5 days ago

    For me it’s many things, boot time not even a priority. This is not an invitation to challenge my personal grievances.

    If i wanted a monolithic system half of which depends on a single service/library, I would use windows or macos. Basically, I’m trying to avoid vendor lock. I want to be able to replace almost any part of the system on a whim.

    I don’t care if some user process is not stopping gracefully, I just want to shut down my machine as fast as possible.

    When I change a user’s groups, I expect that a simple logout/login will be sufficient to apply them.

    I want sensible defaults, and systemd has the opposite in my opinion. I don’t want to spend hours trying to find one maybe existing setting in some unnecessary system service (which I did not want in my system in the first place but which is shipped in almost every distro) that will probably be deprecated in the next release and I will have to do it all over again.

    From what I’ve seen on social media, systemd’s developers and its fandom are insufferable assholes with a superiority complex.

    And many many other small and not so small issues that pile up over time (and systemd developers/adopters help with this a lot) and lead to a burnout.

    Right now I’m using void btw. And ironically I’m running elogind, which is systemd code. But it does one specific thing in this case and doesn’t try to replace the whole os.

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      I don’t have an opinion on the rest of what you said, but you’re factually incorrect about systemd being “monolithic”. It’s a pluggable framework, very much the opposite of monolithic software.