Andrew Kelley quit his job in 2018 to build a programming language. Eight years later, Zig powers Ghostty, TigerBeetle and Uber’s cross-compilation. It’s top 5 most admired on Stack Overflow. There’s just one thing missing: 1.0. Andrew Kelley explains why.

Vitaly talked to Andrew about:

  • Why Zig has no 1.0 after a decade, and why that’s deliberate
  • Why Zig left GitHub
  • Why Zig banned AI from Zig
  • What makes Zig better than C (and why every other C replacement failed)
  • Andrew’s take on Open Source

It’s a long interview, but I found it very interesting and worth it.

  • FizzyOrange@programming.dev
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    17 hours ago

    To be honest I don’t see how a “style guide” is going to help. C++ has had all sorts of guidelines and style guides for decades and it helps a bit but… not really.

    What does the Zig compiler’s own style guide say about avoiding memory errors? As far as I can see nothing?

    Bun didn’t even try one

    Is this style guide not a style guide?

    • TehPers@beehaw.org
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      12 hours ago

      To be honest I don’t see how a “style guide” is going to help. C++ has had all sorts of guidelines and style guides for decades and it helps a bit but… not really.

      It does help though without requiring a complete rewrite in another language, which is prone to causing entirely new issues and reintroducing old, fixed ones.

      Like I said, Rust does a much better job at avoiding these. “Claude rewrite this in Rust” doesn’t give you those benefits for free.

      Is this style guide not a style guide?

      It’s a start, but doesn’t say much about methods to avoid the memory issues that they supposedly had issues with. If they intended to actually use it, maybe it’d have more than 7 commits from 8 months ago. Maybe they would have updated it with patterns to prevent new bugs in the future based on the bugs they ran into. That didn’t happen, though.