What VPN have you switched to after the Mullvad situation. I have looked at nym and ivpn. But don’t know if they are any good.

  • Hiplobbe@lemmy.world
    12·
    24 hours ago

    What ethical consideration, the party he did donate to does not even remotely support the claims you are making. And also there is the consideration of what type of democracy we want.

    Do we want one where people are free to donate and get involved with whatever party and opinion they want without prosecution?

    Or do we want a democracy where you are only allowed to have opinions allowed by the state?

    • godsammitdam@lemmy.zip
      2·
      19 hours ago

      I can’t tell if you’re ignorant or just lying.

      https://lemmy.zip/comment/27359847

      And when did the government get involved in my ability to choose what I purchase? Am I now forced to purchase Mullvad? Its their choice to support whatever they want. It’s my, and others, choice to react accordingly and choose what products we purchase.

      • Hiplobbe@lemmy.world
        11·
        18 hours ago

        Seems like you didn’t check the links in the wikipedia article you sent, that you based your whole “they are def nazi”-monologue.

        Giving people the option to move back to their home countries is not extreme, and as I have written before. Already something that is law today.

        Here is btw the actual like to the “our politcs”-page: https://www.orebropartiet.se/var-politik/ note how it does not actually have any of the politics there. Yet the wikipedia page seems certain that they have some views, that I cannot see specified anywhere. Even the quote from X is totally out of context.

        You can of course do whatever you want, I am just saying that we should be observant to what the party actually wants before we demand the head of a person that gave them money. And clearly you feel comfortable citing sources you haven’t even checked.

        • godsammitdam@lemmy.zip
          1·
          18 hours ago

          Giving people the option to move back to their home countries is not extreme, and as I have written before. Already something that is law today.

          Just like Trump has offered immigrants the ability to self-deport and recieve money (which he’s never paid) right? Anyone immigrating has the option to return already, that’s not something they have to be “given.”

          The National Socialists also wanted to help those who were different, especially those they said had mental issues. So they built facilities to care for them. Family members were told they would be cared for and helped, provided a better way. This was Aktion T4. They were euthanized.

          I’m not saying this is what the Örebro party will do. But I will say, when there are other options available, why risk something like that by indirectly funding their rise? I am allowed to make my own decisions, no? And I am allowed to voice my concern, no? Just like the Örebro party is allowed to beautify remigration and you are allowed to run cover for them.

          And clearly you feel comfortable citing sources you haven’t even checked.

          I feel comfortable because I have. Because someone deletes a twitter post or someone updates a webpage they own shouldn’t sway you.

          But first, from the article wikipedia linked

          https://www.friatider.se/markus-allard-om-andra-generationens-invandrare-de-ska-ocksa-ut

          Örebro Party leader Markus Allard goes to the election on expulsions. He opens to withdraw citizenship and also expel second generation of immigrants – even if they were born in Sweden.
          “I’m prepared to cross corpses,” he said.

          One suggestion that he has is that citizenship and permanent residence permits can be torn up – with reference to “Sweden is the country of Swedes”.

          Just like Germany is for the Germans and America is for the Americans, right?

          In a section of Yoshi’s Podcast, Allard develops his view on expulsions and explains that he prepared to “go over corpses” to bring home unwanted immigrants. The host notes that there will be no beautiful sight when, for example, immigrant mothers who have been on maternity leave for 15 years are to be deported together with their children. “It’s not going to be pretty to send these people home,” he said. Markus Allard agrees, but says: I think you can handle that optics. Even the children will need to be deported, he explains.

          He further explains that many of the problems relate to second-generation immigrants. They are going out too. Even if they were born in Sweden, because they have no natural connection to Sweden. They are not Swedes. They have not become Swedes. It says Sweden in the passport, but they have not been interested in becoming part of Sweden. There’s a difference. It’s a qualitative difference," Allard said.

          But yes, they’re just National Socialists, right? They want socialism, it’s in the name, right?