• mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.mlOP
    1810·
    21 hours ago

    You have no idea about other cultural norms and attires. Is the western man being oppressed when he has to wear a tie and suit to the office in order to keep his job? Do we free him from this oppression by ostracizing him or making it illegal for wearing a tie?

    • philanthropicoctopus@thelemmy.club
      93·
      13 hours ago

      You know, this is a fair point, but there’s a few differences.

      Not all jobs require a suit, there’s a lot of choice (you could get through life never wearing one). Its also only required during working hours. Not around the clock. Women have been killed over these expectations. Its not the same.

      • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.mlOP
        68·
        13 hours ago

        Women have been killed over these expectations

        Is that really what you think muslims support?? Can you not conceive of people wanting to wear a hijab?? And even if not, why is it so hard to accept that it’s just a fact when they say it??

        • Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.caEnglish
          42·
          6 hours ago

          I can conceive of an individual woman wanting to wear one. However every woman I have known who wears one does because she must if she is to follow her religion and her society’s norms and her family’s dictates which would indicate that she doesn’t actually have the choice not to. I tend to believe that Muslim woman have a choice when they choose not to wear one because they often face abuse from other Muslims.

          • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.mlOP
            2·
            16 minutes ago

            “they” are just a gray mass to you aren’t they? “They” clearly aren’t individuals in your eyes but a cudgel to wield against west asians under the pretense of human rights. Hundreds of millions of women all the same to you because they arent european…

    • sudoer777@lemmy.mlEnglish
      91·
      15 hours ago

      Is the western man being oppressed when he has to wear a tie and suit to the office in order to keep his job?

      Suits are expensive and unnecessary. Some people (i.e. autistic) might have sensory difficulties when they wear them. If someone is vegan, most suits aren’t so it further restricts what they can wear and they have to worry more about differences in look due to the stricter dress code. Fortunately, being restricted only while working certain jobs isn’t as bad as being restricted in all public spaces.

      Do we free him from this oppression by ostracizing him or making it illegal for wearing a tie?

      No