No, actually, I can’t think of any successful revolutions that have? Generally, the death or incarceration of a figurehead harms the movement dramatically.
That’s not hard. Nelson Mandela, Václav Havel, José Mujica, Kim Dae-jung. I lived in Czechia under Havel and it was certainly the greatest moment in history I will ever experience. It still gives me hope for humanity.
Nelson Mandela died in 2013, though he is a good choice for being imprisoned for 27 years it is difficult to say that it in any way helped his cause since Apartheid lasted from the 1940s to 1994. He got a lot more done after being released in 1990 I tell you that much. It also didn’t hurt to have people like POTUS Bill Clinton on his side.
Havel was cool but being the first and final president of Czechoslovakia isn’t all that "revolutionary ".
Jose Mujica again a revolutionary in his youth and a normal politician in his later years.
Kim Dae-Jung…
Do you dudes have no idea what a successful revolution is? Because it isn’t slow legislative reform. That’s kind of the crux of the issue, all of these men had the sense to do what Luigi did not: pursue peaceful political reform and increase civillian engagement in democratic politics.
MLK, Nelson Mandela, Helen of Troy, the American revolution, the IRA, the entire history of Europe, the suffragettes, stonewall, Rosa parks, countless hunger strikers in prison, conscientious objectors throughout recorded history, Malcolm x, anyone persecuted under Jim crow, Rosa Luxembourg, Nadia Rumad. Off the top of my head.
You really asked if there are people from successful political movements who have been killed, had people make an attempt on their life, or were put in prison.
MLK Jr died in 1968, long after the civil rights act was signed into law.
George Washington did not die in the Revolution, idk where you heard that.
Helena as in the daughter of Zues? Okay pal.
The “suffragettes” generally refers to the WSPU which failed and disbanded in 1914 several years before some few women were allowed to vote in 1918 due to the efforts of different groups and more broadly in 1928.
How the fuck do you claim the entire IRA died but also accomplished a successful revolution?
The entirety of Europe? You think the entirety of Europe is currently dead?!
All revolutions start with martyrs
No, actually, I can’t think of any successful revolutions that have? Generally, the death or incarceration of a figurehead harms the movement dramatically.
Wow look, ahistoric nonsense proven wrong by even the most cursory look at world history. How embarrassing.
Got an example to work with?
That’s not hard. Nelson Mandela, Václav Havel, José Mujica, Kim Dae-jung. I lived in Czechia under Havel and it was certainly the greatest moment in history I will ever experience. It still gives me hope for humanity.
Nelson Mandela died in 2013, though he is a good choice for being imprisoned for 27 years it is difficult to say that it in any way helped his cause since Apartheid lasted from the 1940s to 1994. He got a lot more done after being released in 1990 I tell you that much. It also didn’t hurt to have people like POTUS Bill Clinton on his side.
Havel was cool but being the first and final president of Czechoslovakia isn’t all that "revolutionary ".
Jose Mujica again a revolutionary in his youth and a normal politician in his later years.
Kim Dae-Jung…
Do you dudes have no idea what a successful revolution is? Because it isn’t slow legislative reform. That’s kind of the crux of the issue, all of these men had the sense to do what Luigi did not: pursue peaceful political reform and increase civillian engagement in democratic politics.
The types of “revolutions” you expouse almost always end in tryanny.
MLK, Nelson Mandela, Helen of Troy, the American revolution, the IRA, the entire history of Europe, the suffragettes, stonewall, Rosa parks, countless hunger strikers in prison, conscientious objectors throughout recorded history, Malcolm x, anyone persecuted under Jim crow, Rosa Luxembourg, Nadia Rumad. Off the top of my head.
You really asked if there are people from successful political movements who have been killed, had people make an attempt on their life, or were put in prison.
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MLK Jr died in 1968, long after the civil rights act was signed into law.
George Washington did not die in the Revolution, idk where you heard that.
Helena as in the daughter of Zues? Okay pal.
The “suffragettes” generally refers to the WSPU which failed and disbanded in 1914 several years before some few women were allowed to vote in 1918 due to the efforts of different groups and more broadly in 1928.
How the fuck do you claim the entire IRA died but also accomplished a successful revolution?
The entirety of Europe? You think the entirety of Europe is currently dead?!
Ah acting obtuse and dumb because you can’t take an obvious L
“You think the whole of the IRA died!!!11111”
How embarrassing.