Dude I’ve been to Shanghai and from my pea brained American view it was the cleanest and most well designed city I’ve perhaps ever seen. You just compared tacky American bullshit made of parking lots and misery to a lovely walkable space with nice architecture. Like you can spit on the worship of consumerism on Huaihai road, yeah that’s a problem, but it’s at least an area built for human fucking beings to be able to exist outside.
Lol what? Your reading comprehension is awful or maybe it was my writing I’m to drunk to go back and read what I said, pretty sure I never said Europe was a country or anything about the roads being full of advertising. All I said is when I looked at the original meme and posted the picture what made them look similar to me was the ubiquity of adverts. Sorry that I share your american grievances.
Anyways lots of European cities look very similar (basically like Paris) at least the cities I live in and have visited always look like Paris I named Berlin and Vienna you can add Prague to that list as well. I don’t have money to travel so I can’t say what other places look like.
honest question - have you been to US cities? I’m sure you’ve got gripes about Euro cities but the sheer unwalkability of 95% of US cities is astonishing.
Lol well it was built by the French, most of Paris or Vienna or Berlin looks like that as well. I found the advertising to be the more offensive thing in both pictures.
What are you talking about? Not a beautiful area and some are probably ads but built for walkability not cars only no idea what you are trying to say with this. China does have some areas with unnecessarily enlarged highways you could have posted instead.
I’m not american, so the design the fact that it was built around cars didn’t stick out to me, what did stick out was the insane amount of advertising and noise trying to sell you 100 versions of the same product. That’s why I don’t think the meme was very good.
Sorry that we’re not all American. That area was built before cars were a thing otherwise you bet your ass there would be a huge fucking road there. That’s why it’s walkable. Also cities like that were designed specifically to stop revolutions after 1848. Another reason people like pedestrian zones in places like Europe is because you can make a shit ton of money off of real estate if you know the area is going to be designated a pedestrian zone before hand, and because it forces consumers to spend longer walking through commercial zones. In Europe walkability and anti car design usually only happens in fancy urban areas. The minute you live in a more rural area you’re completely fucked if you don’t have a car and public transport usually sucks ass outside of major cities. Or at least that’s the case where I live.
Sorry that we’re not all American. That area was built before cars were a thing otherwise you bet there would be a huge road there. That’s why it’s walkable.
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Also cities like that were designed specifically to stop revolutions after 1848. Another reason people like pedestrian zones in places like Europe is because you can make a ton of money off of real estate if you know the area is going to be designated a pedestrian zone before hand, and because it forces consumers to spend longer walking through commercial zones.
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In Europe walkability and anti car design usually only happens in fancy urban areas.
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The minute you live in a more rural area you’re completely fucked if you don’t have a car and public transport usually sucks ass outside of major cities. Or at least that’s the case where I live.
Most of the pedestrianisation that has been done in the city I live in happened over the last 10 years.
The reasons for it were what I said. I campaigned a lot to various billionaires for more pedestrianisation and used the reasons I said.
The city I lived in used to be insanely car centric. The first big pedestrianised zone happened before the oil crisis in 1971 and it mainly happened because they were building the subway they just kept it that way, that might of had something to do with the oil crisis idk.
Yes that’s the rural struggle certainly - the difference is that many “urban” zones in the US (and likely other parts of the western empire) are dominated by car infrastructure needlessly/maliciously.
Advertising is so pervasive that people don’t even notice it anymore it just blends in to the background and people assume that’s what a city is meant to look like, they had no advertising in the DDR and AFAIK still don’t in NK.
I mean the single cosmetic ad is a problem and I think ads should be illegal, but all of the other signs are attached to their buildings, rather than being an advertisement. So if you’re talking about those, it is not the same.
https://blog.airpaz.com/wp-content/uploads/Shanghai-Huaihai-Road-1.png
Idk that’s a bad meme.
Dude I’ve been to Shanghai and from my pea brained American view it was the cleanest and most well designed city I’ve perhaps ever seen. You just compared tacky American bullshit made of parking lots and misery to a lovely walkable space with nice architecture. Like you can spit on the worship of consumerism on Huaihai road, yeah that’s a problem, but it’s at least an area built for human fucking beings to be able to exist outside.
Okay cool well I live in Europe all cities are like this and they’re all fucking shit.
So true, I remember when the country of Europe mandated every road be covered in advertisements
Lol what? Your reading comprehension is awful or maybe it was my writing I’m to drunk to go back and read what I said, pretty sure I never said Europe was a country or anything about the roads being full of advertising. All I said is when I looked at the original meme and posted the picture what made them look similar to me was the ubiquity of adverts. Sorry that I share your american grievances.
Anyways lots of European cities look very similar (basically like Paris) at least the cities I live in and have visited always look like Paris I named Berlin and Vienna you can add Prague to that list as well. I don’t have money to travel so I can’t say what other places look like.
honest question - have you been to US cities? I’m sure you’ve got gripes about Euro cities but the sheer unwalkability of 95% of US cities is astonishing.
Yeah I hated them. I also can’t travel to the US of A I’m on a terrorist watch list.
You wrote two paragraphs without remembering or double checking what you said? And you insult my reading comprehension? What the fuck lmao
Yeah because I know what I wrote had nothing to do with what you said.
That looks far better? Like yeah advertising sucks and I wish it were illegal but that isn’t the only issue with the original image
Oh god what a hellscape, a dense walkable area.
Idk advertising fucking sucks, used to be banned.
Omg that ad is for a skin lightning cream isnt it?
Still streets ahead of that stroad up top
Advertising fucking sucks. There used to be no ads in the DDR there still aren’t in North Korea.
Yes, ads do fucking suck - you’re right. But zero walk-ability/bike-ability is fucking awful (and we still have the ads so it isn’t even a trade off).
Lol well it was built by the French, most of Paris or Vienna or Berlin looks like that as well. I found the advertising to be the more offensive thing in both pictures.
What are you talking about? Not a beautiful area and some are probably ads but built for walkability not cars only no idea what you are trying to say with this. China does have some areas with unnecessarily enlarged highways you could have posted instead.
I’m not american, so the design the fact that it was built around cars didn’t stick out to me, what did stick out was the insane amount of advertising and noise trying to sell you 100 versions of the same product. That’s why I don’t think the meme was very good.
Sorry that we’re not all American. That area was built before cars were a thing otherwise you bet your ass there would be a huge fucking road there. That’s why it’s walkable. Also cities like that were designed specifically to stop revolutions after 1848. Another reason people like pedestrian zones in places like Europe is because you can make a shit ton of money off of real estate if you know the area is going to be designated a pedestrian zone before hand, and because it forces consumers to spend longer walking through commercial zones. In Europe walkability and anti car design usually only happens in fancy urban areas. The minute you live in a more rural area you’re completely fucked if you don’t have a car and public transport usually sucks ass outside of major cities. Or at least that’s the case where I live.
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The reason for walkability being better in Europe is the direct result of the 1973 oil crisis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXNLaHsKMz8
Most of the pedestrianisation that has been done in the city I live in happened over the last 10 years.
The reasons for it were what I said. I campaigned a lot to various billionaires for more pedestrianisation and used the reasons I said.
The city I lived in used to be insanely car centric. The first big pedestrianised zone happened before the oil crisis in 1971 and it mainly happened because they were building the subway they just kept it that way, that might of had something to do with the oil crisis idk.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llSv_94zRM0
Yes that’s the rural struggle certainly - the difference is that many “urban” zones in the US (and likely other parts of the western empire) are dominated by car infrastructure needlessly/maliciously.
Road for cars vs road for people.
Are you and the person the pic is addressing both cars?
I’m sorry, is that supposed to be a comparison of something that’s bad? Can you describe what’s bad about it?
The advertising.
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Advertising is so pervasive that people don’t even notice it anymore it just blends in to the background and people assume that’s what a city is meant to look like, they had no advertising in the DDR and AFAIK still don’t in NK.
I mean the single cosmetic ad is a problem and I think ads should be illegal, but all of the other signs are attached to their buildings, rather than being an advertisement. So if you’re talking about those, it is not the same.
With the exception of the one, maybe.
Gotta bleach your skin so you can look white, I’d hate to look like a farmer.
I would gladly accept 10x the amount of visible advertising if it meant I got even a fraction of the infrastructure of a typical large Chinese city