• Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org
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    17 hours ago

    But there is, it causes problems and puts unproportionaly much pressure on the other side. Aka the other side needs to do the initiating 99% of the times, which creates the feeling of not being wanted. Coupled with the constant rejection as well isn’t that good on self esteem either.

    Like in relationships posts which get more popular, there are always guys who complain how they’re tired from constantly initiating and don’t feel wanted, which leads to them just giving up all together.

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      12 hours ago

      no, there is no reason to hate lack of drive.

      Let me put it this way: Do you hate a gay man for not wanting to fuck women? Asexuality is a valid part of the spectrum. If you have no interest, then you have no interest. But it doesn’t mean you can’t have an intimate relationship or love. Plenty do it. The key is communication - if your partner thinks you have sexual feelings but are rejecting them then it’s a very different beast to "I don’t have sexual feelings for anyone"

      there are always guys who complain how they’re tired from constantly initiating and don’t feel wanted

      If you’re talking the broader complaints of society here, that’s a very different kettle of fish, and a lot of it is tied into not doing the work before just going “snog me, woman!”

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        11 hours ago

        I apologize in advance if it gets too depressive or over sharing. I’ve noticed over the years that just writing things down can be kinda helpful in at least articulating and getting a better understanding of my own mental processes.

        Fair, yeah i wouldn’t hate another individual over something that simple aka gay man not wanting to fuck woman. It’s rather easy to accept other individuals than oneself. It’s so much more easier to hate oneself and beat oneself up, even if it’s completely irrational. It’s something that can be done, even if detrimental, but it gives at least some form of an illusion over having control over it.
        Like not remembering to initiate more or being too tired and not pushing through it or forgetting actions that make the partner feel wanted or the equipment being already fully primed and ready to go, but the mind not being there. If i fail those, it’s my fault. I have to do better and try harder. Maybe if i keep searching for long enough i will eventually find a cure or a fix.
        Accepting asexuality seems like giving up without a fight, like surrendering.

        While love and intimacy might be rather complicated concepts for me, as I’ve understood yes those are possible without sex, but once again from a practical perspective overwhelming majority of people do see sex as the main distinction between friendship and a relationship. So the lack of drive or desire is going to be a rather huge disadvantage.
        Yes i know and been told that I’m not supposed to “date” half the population, so the disadvantage shouldnt matter, but i never did manage to figure out what’s supposed to be the driving force beyond practicality then.

        On the broader complaints part. Fair, probably a bad example as i tried to show the effect of not feeling wanted and the burden of being the one who disproportionately has to initiate, while taking it from a too biased perspective and not properly knowing the background details, though it still does hit rather close to home being at the opposite end of it.