• Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyzM
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          I’d argue those still count as messing with the consonants, given they’re usually from [Vn, Vm]→[Vŋ]→[Ṽ] in Portuguese, French, and Lombard. And old Romanian, too (the language eventually lost them, but apparently it had nasal vowels at some point).

          In fact some in Portuguese still interpret those nasal vowels as vowel+consonant sequences, proposing some “nasal archiphoneme” for that. e.g. “lã” wool /laN/. Often due to the presence of a nasal appendix (trailing nasalisation, after the vowel ended) in those words. I personally don’t buy it, but hey, still consonant weirdness!

    • quill7513@anarchist.nexus
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      2 days ago

      by that logic, french and spanish have more in common than spanish and portuguese, so they should all be bundled as romantics