Hold on, I want to see if you recognize the implications of what you just agreed to. You agree that NATO annihilated a prosperous society, yet you still believe what they say about the other countries they want to go to war with? Why? It’s not like they were honest about Libya.
Really? Wow, then it seems like they fail and make mistakes so insanely often that nothing they say merits trust, wouldn’t you agree? I wouldn’t trust a surgeon who keeps “accidentally” removing people’s eyes; I would call for his resignation and investigation. I certainly wouldn’t choose to defend him in a dispute whose origins I know nothing about.
If this has all been a long series of mass murdering whoopsies on NATO’s part, then NATO is incompetent to the point of being a useless danger to the world and must be promptly dismantled.
Actually, when you realize that NATO has never ever gone on a defensive war ever, and every conflict it’s been involved in has been about aggression against other countries, you realize that those aren’t mistakes or exceptions: they’re exactly the reason for which NATO was created.
You really took the propaganda outline of what they told you it was for at face value. NATO from it’s inception has been a vehicle to boost arms sales and further US foreign policy. Or as NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte put it, it is a "platform for the United States to project power on the World stage“.
This is exactly wrong and there is zero evidence for it. Meanwhile, Russia got involved in Ukraine because the government there was attempting a genocide, nazis and all. You have fallen for the most Israeli trick in the book: reversing victim and offender. This move is to be expected from Ukraine: Zelensky himself said that he wants to turn Ukraine into Europe’s Israel. He said this after the genocide was already underway.
All the same people who told that Operation al Aqsa Flood was an attempt by evil Hamas to genocide Jewish people, all the same people who told you that what’s happening in Gaza is just a war and not a genocide, all the same people who told you that all those schools and hospitals were secret Hamas bases, are the same people who want you to believe that Russia is trying to do a genocide in Ukraine for no adequately explained reason, just because they’re Bad Guys. That China too is doing an invisible bloodless genocide, again just because They’re Bad. That we had to invade Iraq and kill a million people because Saddam Hussein was building a nuke (because Bad). All these insane claims come from the same few people and government agencies, and you would have to be a fool to continue believing them.
It holds zero water when you think it through for five seconds.
Because most of Europe is made of of the most violent imperialists in history who don’t give a fuck about human life beyond their value on a spreadsheet? Do you know nothing of European history? The terrors of the British empire? French terror through the CFA Franc? Finland not removing their air force swastika until 2023? And so much more. NATO is to the modern world what the Axis was in the 1930s the alliance of the most militant imperialists looking out for their interests as capitalism declines.
Every attack by NATO is a huge failure, and a mistake.
So when NATO expands eastward and it’s seen as aggressive by another nation, especially in regards to historical precedent, how do you think that nation will react?
Hold on, I want to see if you recognize the implications of what you just agreed to. You agree that NATO annihilated a prosperous society, yet you still believe what they say about the other countries they want to go to war with? Why? It’s not like they were honest about Libya.
NATO was never supposed to go to war, it was supposed to defend against agression. Every attack by NATO is a huge failure, and a mistake.
Really? Wow, then it seems like they fail and make mistakes so insanely often that nothing they say merits trust, wouldn’t you agree? I wouldn’t trust a surgeon who keeps “accidentally” removing people’s eyes; I would call for his resignation and investigation. I certainly wouldn’t choose to defend him in a dispute whose origins I know nothing about.
If this has all been a long series of mass murdering whoopsies on NATO’s part, then NATO is incompetent to the point of being a useless danger to the world and must be promptly dismantled.
Actually, when you realize that NATO has never ever gone on a defensive war ever, and every conflict it’s been involved in has been about aggression against other countries, you realize that those aren’t mistakes or exceptions: they’re exactly the reason for which NATO was created.
Death to NATO
LOL
LMAO
You really took the propaganda outline of what they told you it was for at face value. NATO from it’s inception has been a vehicle to boost arms sales and further US foreign policy. Or as NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte put it, it is a "platform for the United States to project power on the World stage“.
And why was the entire Europe ready for all that? Can you think of a reason?
Lemme guess, you think Europe is a bastion of good in this world lmao
It’s not attacking another country right now.
It is currently elbow deep in assisting the Palestinian genocide and making criticism illegal.
It’s literally backing genocide, it’s also attacked a lot more countries than Russia in the last few decades.
Just admit you’re a racist
Russia is actively doing genocide, while Europe is not stopping it. I’m not saying Europe is a pure continent, but it’s not attacking anyone.
“not stopping” is a pretty dishonest way to say “actively backing”
This is exactly wrong and there is zero evidence for it. Meanwhile, Russia got involved in Ukraine because the government there was attempting a genocide, nazis and all. You have fallen for the most Israeli trick in the book: reversing victim and offender. This move is to be expected from Ukraine: Zelensky himself said that he wants to turn Ukraine into Europe’s Israel. He said this after the genocide was already underway.
All the same people who told that Operation al Aqsa Flood was an attempt by evil Hamas to genocide Jewish people, all the same people who told you that what’s happening in Gaza is just a war and not a genocide, all the same people who told you that all those schools and hospitals were secret Hamas bases, are the same people who want you to believe that Russia is trying to do a genocide in Ukraine for no adequately explained reason, just because they’re Bad Guys. That China too is doing an invisible bloodless genocide, again just because They’re Bad. That we had to invade Iraq and kill a million people because Saddam Hussein was building a nuke (because Bad). All these insane claims come from the same few people and government agencies, and you would have to be a fool to continue believing them.
It holds zero water when you think it through for five seconds.
“right now” they are, but if they aren’t it’s okay? Fuck the past, history start from now.
Because most of Europe is made of of the most violent imperialists in history who don’t give a fuck about human life beyond their value on a spreadsheet? Do you know nothing of European history? The terrors of the British empire? French terror through the CFA Franc? Finland not removing their air force swastika until 2023? And so much more. NATO is to the modern world what the Axis was in the 1930s the alliance of the most militant imperialists looking out for their interests as capitalism declines.
Do you even know what a vassal state is?
So when NATO expands eastward and it’s seen as aggressive by another nation, especially in regards to historical precedent, how do you think that nation will react?
Tell me, how many times has NATO attacked a neighbour? Because it usually goes into another continents. So why would it matter who joins?
How many neighbours has Russia attacked? Oh boy. No wonder every one of them wants a bigger friend.
So no, fuck Russia. Fuck it for attacking Ukraine, fuck it for attacking EU.
There’s examples in this very thread where they attack not a neighbor but a country far away. And you see this having more legitimacy? Lol
Weren’t you the one crying whataboutism lol
Crazy that they just did that, not like they saw any aggression right?
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Death to Europe. Russia needs to hurry up and collapse the sick corner of the world already
Just making shit up outright now
Do you mind providing examples or being more specific?
Lol. Now say the same about Russia.
Russia attacked a neighbour. Fuck them for it.
Lol. Don’t you mean to say that it was an unfortunate “mistake and failure”?
Of course not, because you’re a racist hypocritical piece of shit.
It’s not the first time even since the ‘spessul mltary operashion’ begun.
Incoherent, thank you
You are, and I say this without any hyperbole, deeply stupid.