It’s a bit more nuanced than able to work == disorder free and I think you know that and are exaggerating. It is true however that the ideology is to not diagnosing a person unless there’s a level of insight. What good does it do to label a narcissist when they don’t suffer from it or suffer from a different condition even if that secondary condition is brought on by narcissism? A diagnosis should help a person and benefit them, not pass moral judgment.
About the narcissist, it could help the people around the person afflicted, if they are in a position of power for example. But I guess it’s not a clear cut.
Yeah, I get where you’re coming from but this are the limitations of the context of therapy: it is beyond the scope to help others aside from the patient unless that is the intent of the patient but this requires insight and empathy and those are no strengths of a typical narcissist. A propos people in power and personality disorders: there are ethical guidelines preventing mental health specialists to diagnose people with disorders (like the Goldwater rule). In my own opinion we should do away with these guidelines: not educating the public does more social harm vis-a-vis democratic decline then any other implications these guidelines prevent.
I love this so much, as long as you can like work you don’t have a disorder.
It’s like narcissistic people, they don’t have a mental illness because it doesn’t hurt them (only others).
What a wonderful world we live in sometimes.
There is a /j and a /s missing in there somewhere.
It’s a bit more nuanced than able to work == disorder free and I think you know that and are exaggerating. It is true however that the ideology is to not diagnosing a person unless there’s a level of insight. What good does it do to label a narcissist when they don’t suffer from it or suffer from a different condition even if that secondary condition is brought on by narcissism? A diagnosis should help a person and benefit them, not pass moral judgment.
True.
About the narcissist, it could help the people around the person afflicted, if they are in a position of power for example. But I guess it’s not a clear cut.
Yeah, I get where you’re coming from but this are the limitations of the context of therapy: it is beyond the scope to help others aside from the patient unless that is the intent of the patient but this requires insight and empathy and those are no strengths of a typical narcissist. A propos people in power and personality disorders: there are ethical guidelines preventing mental health specialists to diagnose people with disorders (like the Goldwater rule). In my own opinion we should do away with these guidelines: not educating the public does more social harm vis-a-vis democratic decline then any other implications these guidelines prevent.