See I think there are people here that are invested or working for Facebook and reddit, so I understand why there is this public feedback, I just don’t buy that this is on the interests of most people using lemmy. We want reddit size, Just without reddit ads and scumbaggery
Have you ever looked into the tech behind Lemmy? The way it’s set up it is already at a breaking point for non-profit instances.
If Lemmy had Reddit size, it would literally crash and burn, and the problems are on a concept level, so they could only be fixed by trashing the whole concept and rewriting from scratch.
There is nothing that can’t be scaled, that’s what each community is on its own separate stack. Imo this is perfectly positioned to scale independently.
If some community can’t scale - they should put that in a community message " we can’t accept content because we can’t scale", I’m sure someone will take over
This is not how Lemmy works. This is not how anything about Lemmy works. Please, look at how ActivityPub works, what instances are, what communities are, when content from a community is copied to another instance and how scaling on Lemmy works.
Come back to continue the discussion when you have an idea what you are talking about.
Most people here don’t want reddit size. We like discussion, and 10s of thousands of comments and bots. If it gets larger overtime and scales horizontally to keep the communities a reasonable size, that’s great. We’re here because it’s not Reddit, not because we want it to be reddit.
I’m not sure what you are saying actually aligns with what most people want.
I want reddit size , with lemmy apps without ads and without reddit douchebaggery.
Yes ofc we all want real discussions and real humans, but humans won’t come here if there is no content, I think it’s very very clear by now.
We need at least content parity, only then we can attract more people. And as more people come here - reddit would naturally die the digg way. But there is a chicken and an egg problem - we need content first
I think we’re just on different wavelengths. Anecdotally, it appears to me in most communities that I look in, people don’t want mass expansion. A lot of us like the smaller community where we recognize different regular users. More people means more drama and more shit. If the platform never expanded from where it is right now, I’d be satisfied as well as I think many others would be.
More diverse instances and sub Lemmy’s would be nice for more niche topics, but I don’t want to scroll through posts with thousands of comments.
But again, different strokes for different folks. It’s not what I’m looking for, but there certainly are people such as yourself that do.
Repost communities have been tried before, dozens of times. Literally every two weeks some new user comes along, thinks they are the first one to ever think of this idea, writes a bot and trashes all the feeds with whatever that guy thinks is cool.
People don’t want any content, they want worthwhile content that they can engage with and have meaningful discussions about, not their whole feed spammed full with pure copy paste.
Imagine you want to sell people on the concept of e-mail. There’s not a lot of messages going around, so you come along and say “People want more e-mails” and start spamming like crazy. “Here’s a hundred cat videos for you! There’s a few dozen chain emails for you! Here, take a few hundred messages from ‘hot singles in your area’!”
Do you not understand the difference between good organic content and spam?
See I think there are people here that are invested or working for Facebook and reddit, so I understand why there is this public feedback, I just don’t buy that this is on the interests of most people using lemmy. We want reddit size, Just without reddit ads and scumbaggery
Have you ever looked into the tech behind Lemmy? The way it’s set up it is already at a breaking point for non-profit instances.
If Lemmy had Reddit size, it would literally crash and burn, and the problems are on a concept level, so they could only be fixed by trashing the whole concept and rewriting from scratch.
There is nothing that can’t be scaled, that’s what each community is on its own separate stack. Imo this is perfectly positioned to scale independently. If some community can’t scale - they should put that in a community message " we can’t accept content because we can’t scale", I’m sure someone will take over
This is not how Lemmy works. This is not how anything about Lemmy works. Please, look at how ActivityPub works, what instances are, what communities are, when content from a community is copied to another instance and how scaling on Lemmy works.
Come back to continue the discussion when you have an idea what you are talking about.
Most people here don’t want reddit size. We like discussion, and 10s of thousands of comments and bots. If it gets larger overtime and scales horizontally to keep the communities a reasonable size, that’s great. We’re here because it’s not Reddit, not because we want it to be reddit.
I’m not sure what you are saying actually aligns with what most people want.
I want reddit size , with lemmy apps without ads and without reddit douchebaggery.
Yes ofc we all want real discussions and real humans, but humans won’t come here if there is no content, I think it’s very very clear by now.
We need at least content parity, only then we can attract more people. And as more people come here - reddit would naturally die the digg way. But there is a chicken and an egg problem - we need content first
I think we’re just on different wavelengths. Anecdotally, it appears to me in most communities that I look in, people don’t want mass expansion. A lot of us like the smaller community where we recognize different regular users. More people means more drama and more shit. If the platform never expanded from where it is right now, I’d be satisfied as well as I think many others would be.
More diverse instances and sub Lemmy’s would be nice for more niche topics, but I don’t want to scroll through posts with thousands of comments.
But again, different strokes for different folks. It’s not what I’m looking for, but there certainly are people such as yourself that do.
Repost communities have been tried before, dozens of times. Literally every two weeks some new user comes along, thinks they are the first one to ever think of this idea, writes a bot and trashes all the feeds with whatever that guy thinks is cool.
People don’t want any content, they want worthwhile content that they can engage with and have meaningful discussions about, not their whole feed spammed full with pure copy paste.
Imagine you want to sell people on the concept of e-mail. There’s not a lot of messages going around, so you come along and say “People want more e-mails” and start spamming like crazy. “Here’s a hundred cat videos for you! There’s a few dozen chain emails for you! Here, take a few hundred messages from ‘hot singles in your area’!”
Do you not understand the difference between good organic content and spam?