• 52fighters@sopuli.xyz
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    14 hours ago

    If, over the next 10 years, your country became more and more like China, would you go along with the changes? Would you have any problems with the transformation?

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      13 hours ago
      • modern electricity grid quickly moving away from fossil fuels
      • high speed train network
      • cheap fresh produce
      • affordable housing
      • transitioning to socialism via the development of productive forces
      • strong investment in education and R&D
      • quickly advancing tech in almost every sector that matters
      • people-directed governance that is not subservient to capital (foreign or domestic)
      • very low crime
      • ecological restoration that won’t get cancelled by the next elected administration
      • cheap and good quality healthcare
      • bold long term vision and consistent achievement of it over time

      objectively better than just about any other place

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        12 hours ago

        They’ve been around, as a civilization, for over 5,000 years. I’d like to think you don’t make it that long without doing a thing or 2 right.

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          Eh. The US has been around just as long as a civilization. If the Chinese get to claim credit for the radically different ancient predecessors to modern China, then the US can claim decent from both the ancient Native American civilizations as well as the ancient Middle Eastern civilizations that are ultimately the predecessors of many countries such as the US.

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            The US has been around just as long as a civilization. If the Chinese get to claim credit for the radically different ancient predecessors to modern China, then the US can claim decent from both the ancient Native American civilizations

            The US is a settler colonial project that carried out an extermination campaign and genocide of hundreds of native tribes, and stole their land. Settlers have no right to claim descent from the people (they’re still) trying to exterminate. Unlike South America, there’s not even a genetic heritage; the US colonialist just killed every indigenous person they found, or put them into reservations.

            Neither the PRC nor most ME countries are settler ones. The number of settler-colonial countries is tiny: the US, Canada, Israel, Australia, New Zealand, are the main ones.

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                Kinda sounds more like you need other countries’ history to be described in the same terms that apply to the United States, so you can dismiss it all as “just the way the world is” without having to examine how that history informs our present.

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        8 hours ago

        The education is also non-competitive and crippling for the not-so-gifted students, yes?

        Because I don’t hear about many student suicides (specifically due to stress and pressure) outside of the Asian countries.