• Jentu@lemmy.ml
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        “Either hundreds of millions of people have always predisposed to the lure of the fascist, in which case the entire democratic endeavor is doomed anyway, or something of corporate liberalism has brought us here. Whatever the quality of its rhetoric, any politics that buckles at the prospect of even mildly inconveniencing the rich, or resisting an ally’s genocidal intentions, will always face an uphill battle against a politics that actively embraces malice. “Yes We Can” is a conditional. “Yes We Will” is not.”

        One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This, Chapter 3

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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        Nope, socialist democracy exists and is a break from individualist styles of democracy espoused by liberalism.

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          It’s fully within the principles of self-governance and communal determination which are core tenets and flow from classical liberalism.

          Try again.

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            How does, say, China’s model of Whole Process People’s Democracy, a form of democracy based on consultative democracy, flow from classical liberalism? Liberal models of voting for parties or single representatives don’t map at all to China’s form of democracy, yet China is consistently seen as more democratic by its own citizens than liberal democracies are by their own citizens:

            These are stark differences and are reflective of Marxism as opposed to liberalism.