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    No. I’m mad that the American left is so politically uneducated that they can’t tell the difference between a Liberal and a literal Fascist. You guys all think they’re the same…ev me though from a historical standpoint, Fascists hate Liberals almost as much as they hate Socialists.

    And it makes me sad that people don’t even realize that it’s the Fascists that want you to think the Liberals are worse than they are…all while convincing the Liberals that Socialists are the ones that want to take away their freedoms.

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      22 hours ago

      the difference between a Liberal and a literal Fascist.

      Haha, lol, lmao even

      Free Palestine

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      Your good guys literally committed a genocide. You’re a fucking clown.

      No. I’m mad that the American left is so politically uneducated that they can’t tell the difference between a Liberal and a literal Fascist.

      GUESS THE DIFFERENCE ISN’T FUCKING GENOCIDE

      from a historical standpoint

      The raw fucking irony of whining about people’s political literacy and then saying this shit.

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        The amount of guilt by association in this comment would make Israeli propagandists proud. You nailed the total lack of nuance perfectly.

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          Oh, are israeli propagandists bad or something? Is it a mark on your character to support them or something?

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          What the fuck do you think the word nuance means, you fucking idiot?

          Since the rest of your comment is just smugly talking to yourself, totally nailing the vapid ignorance. “Um actually the people you don’t like would like you because you were mean to me” stupid fucking baby.

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            We slaughtered a hundred thousand or so but we didn’t say fuck words, it’s very nuanced honey

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      … from a historical standpoint, Fascists hate Liberals …

      they’re the same thing where it matters; you need to go back and study history that isn’t written by a capitalist.

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        So, do you think it’s just propaganda that the Nazis were anti-liberal? And by extension, do you think that the MAGA movement today is a pro-liberal movement?

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          The Nazis worked hand in hand with liberals, and after the war liberals helped protect them and use them for the US space program and to lead organizations like NATO.

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      The democrats are a party of imperialists, just like the republicans. Neither party is capable of changing the US Empire for the better, because both are fully committed to the imperial project. Fascists and liberals actually get along a lot better than you think, because both are fundamentally on the same side of imperialism and capitalism while socialists are on the opposite.

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        That shows a remarkable lack of understanding about how democracy works. Voters decide who makes up those parties. And Democrats especially are not all the same. Many of them are not imperialists. Unfortunately, many of them are…but it isn’t universal. And the only way to tip the balance against imperialism, is to run leftists for every possible position there is. Up and down the ballot.

        But, then you have to actually show up and vote for them when they are in the race. If you don’t…then nothing will ever change.

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          No, voters do not decide who makes up the DNC and the GOP. Their donors do. Who you can vote for is already pre-approved by their donors. Secondly, the DNC is an imperialist party, because they all wish to retain the IMF, NATO, capitalism itself, and all that goes into imperialism as the necessary endpoint of late-stage capitalism.

          The only way to fight against the US Empire is by overthrowing it. As long as capitalism is maintained, so too will imperialism be maintained. You cannot have late-stage capitalism without imperialism, and the democrats can’t go against their donor-base, which is where they derive their political power from.

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            So, your only solution is violence? Not solidarity?

            I mean, if you think you can achieve anything using the first, without having the second already locked in…you will have cracked the code for universal regime change. I’m pretty sure you could just wave that magic wand and overthrow any government in the world.

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              What do you mean by “violence, not solidarity?” Revolution can only come from an organized revolutionary class. The working classes cannot be organized within the boundaries of a capitalist-controlled and dominated party that focuses entirely on legal measures.

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                You are contradicting yourself with those statements…

                Revolution can only come from an organized revolutionary class.

                …directly contradicts your next sentence…

                The working classes cannot be organized within the boundaries of a capitalist-controlled and dominated party that focuses entirely on legal measures.

                This all makes it sound like the only way to organize your revolution, is to already have overthrown the system that prevents you from organizing your revolution.

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                  How so? You cannot organize for revolution within the confines of the DNC. You need working class parties like PSL that exist outside of parties like the DNC and GOP, and you need to organize for revolution, not just continue to try to beat the house at a game we all know the house has rigged and can pull the plug at any time.

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              So, your only solution is violence? Not solidarity?

              You voted for a genocide as a solution instead of having solidarity with it’s victims.

              Because you wanted to go back to not caring about politics.