Yes! It’s incredibly telling when someone speaks positively of the concept of work, it’s not noble, it’s not necessary, it’s not good. We’ve spent millions of years trying to cut labor out of existence, even before we were humans we were avoiding doing more. We invented cooking to avoid labor, less obvious labor, but still. The wheel wasn’t made so we could do more, it was made so the labor we needed to do was easier. And that’s just labor, work as we know it is a modern (relatively speaking, the timescale is massive) invention that made labor way worse.
LLMs aren’t actually useful for replacing any kind of labor, though, and too many idiots don’t even make the connection that the thing that makes them hate most of their lives is bad.
Labor is pretty much the most noble thing you can think of. Doing art, poetry, music, healing people, teaching kids - all of this is labor, and it is very noble.
As I said in the other reply, labor IS natural, and without it your body will literally die.
As for progress, we literally did stuff to do more (and that’s why in part LLMs arent that useful). Cooking was invented (or more like discovered?) to have more calories or to save more food for longer. Because it’s actually more labor to find a place, make a fire there, make all the stuff you need for cooking and then cook things right. It’s much easier to just eat your pray raw, but it’s less calories (because it’s harder to digest) and it spoils faster. And dont make me started on preserving stuff.
Wheel was invented to haul more cargo, for longer. Computer aided manufacturing was made so one person can make more, and faster.
there’s a point to be made on the other hand that the wheel made industrialization possible and we all know how that worked out for the people who refused laboring for wages. not all cultures even needed wheels because their local geographies didn’t necessitate using wheeled transport. that doesn’t mean they didn’t use wheels for other applications though.
Yes! It’s incredibly telling when someone speaks positively of the concept of work, it’s not noble, it’s not necessary, it’s not good. We’ve spent millions of years trying to cut labor out of existence, even before we were humans we were avoiding doing more. We invented cooking to avoid labor, less obvious labor, but still. The wheel wasn’t made so we could do more, it was made so the labor we needed to do was easier. And that’s just labor, work as we know it is a modern (relatively speaking, the timescale is massive) invention that made labor way worse.
LLMs aren’t actually useful for replacing any kind of labor, though, and too many idiots don’t even make the connection that the thing that makes them hate most of their lives is bad.
Don’t confuse labor with work
Labor is pretty much the most noble thing you can think of. Doing art, poetry, music, healing people, teaching kids - all of this is labor, and it is very noble.
As I said in the other reply, labor IS natural, and without it your body will literally die.
As for progress, we literally did stuff to do more (and that’s why in part LLMs arent that useful). Cooking was invented (or more like discovered?) to have more calories or to save more food for longer. Because it’s actually more labor to find a place, make a fire there, make all the stuff you need for cooking and then cook things right. It’s much easier to just eat your pray raw, but it’s less calories (because it’s harder to digest) and it spoils faster. And dont make me started on preserving stuff.
Wheel was invented to haul more cargo, for longer. Computer aided manufacturing was made so one person can make more, and faster.
I’m heartened by your reply.
there’s a point to be made on the other hand that the wheel made industrialization possible and we all know how that worked out for the people who refused laboring for wages. not all cultures even needed wheels because their local geographies didn’t necessitate using wheeled transport. that doesn’t mean they didn’t use wheels for other applications though.