• Dagnet@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    When did I say chinese people arent people? Are you replying to the wrong comment? You sound like you are 14 with your reading skills and going straight to calling me a loser lol.

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      You are a loser. You don’t view us as independent people who have our own views on our country. You ignore the fact that even western outlets report over 80% of us support the government. But none of that matters to you because we’re just peasants brainwashed by the evil “authoritarians”.

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        Not exactly related to the main discussion, but none other than Jeffrey Epstein described the Chinese government, and Xi in particular, as peasants. Said you guys spoke in “fortune cookie language.” It goes without saying that is the highest compliment to be an enemy of such people, so China is clearly doing something right.

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          China itself just like Chairman Mao is imperfect but I strongly believe the merits out way the wrongs and the real question isn’t is China good or bad but by how much the good out ways the bad e.g. is it 60/40, 70/30, 80/20 etc.

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            Just a tip, “way” sounds the same as “weigh,” but “way” refers more to form or path, while “weigh” refers to weight, as in this instance. Fuck english, it’s terrible.

            Example:

            I am on my way to your house.

            It’s the way I did things.

            I weighed the stone, it is 2 kilograms.

            Also, feel free to tell me to shut the fuck up, lol.

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              That’s for Chairman Mao and I would largely agree with that however I meant more for the new China as a whole. China continues to be imperfect but as I said I believe the real debate is the semantics of how far the good outweighs the bad as opposed to are they good or bad currently.

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          QinShiHuangsShlong was clearly explaining how you are utterly mistaken about China. When Chinese tell you that public ownership is principle (ie controls the commanding heights), that the working classes run the state, and an overwhelming number support the CPC, your response is that it’s “stating the obvious” to say otherwise. This stems from a sheer distrust of the words of Chinese people, and is why your comment is chauvanist.

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            10 hours ago

            They said I dont see Chinese people as people instead of focusing on the ‘stating the obvious’ part. They literally came up with something I never said to support their point.

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              When you’re denying China’s system as socialist, despite what Chinese say and the reasons they give, it points to a distrust of Chinese people themselves.

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                That makes not sense at all, people in China are diverse and numerous with many different opinions and experiences. Don’t just band them together as if they are all the same.

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                  I didn’t, I simply stated that the overwhelming majority of Chinese citizens support their socialist system and consider it as such. Against them, you claim that private ownership is somehow principle despite being relegated to secondary industries and medium/small firms, and claim that the bourgeoisie are in charge of the state despite evidence to the contrary.

                  On what basis do you believe what you do?

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                    Dont move the goal post. You are trying to prove my comment somehow dehumanizes the entirety of the Chinese population, how does that make sense? When did I say or treat the WHOLE chinese population as less than human with my words?

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          You are defending and agreeing with someone calling China evil and authoritarian capitalist. He is wrong and so are you. No amount of dodging or hiding behind semantics will change the position you chose to defend and that you clearly chose to defend it for chauvinist reasons.

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            You said I didnt see Chinese people as people, which I never said ever. Are you gonna retract that? Cause you are still wrong.

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              No because even if you don’t state it openly it’s clearly apparent. You clearly hate China, and we’re all just brainwashed serfs of the ebil gubberment.

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                10 hours ago

                Ah okay, so the fabrications of your mind and you prejudice against me are relevant and valid points for you to criticize me. The irony of your comment isnt lost on me

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                  The “fabrications” of you siding with someone calling China evil. China is directed by the people. Reconcile how you don’t hate Chinese people for me.

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                    The government does not represent all of a country’s people, a country can be evil without its people being evil. Example: the US