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      Europe provided something like 30% of the foreign weapons used to commit the genocide in Gaza. How many did China provide?

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      This is the purest possible distillation of western chauvinism and for that I thank you. “Sure we’re evil, but we’re still the good guys so imagine how evil those Others must be.”

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      Idk, being responsible for past colonialism and imperialism, including the transatlantic slave trade, nowadays benefiting from neocolonialism, and taking the side of the US whenever it bullies or bombs random ass countries is a whole lot of evil. The only thing that the EU has going for it is excellent PR.

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          You said it’s better than the others. I contested that based on the history of cruelty perpetuated by and for Europeans and that even to this day many EU countries maintain neocolonial dominance over former colonies and other countries, benefiting from the superexploitation of their people. The EU also whitewashes western crimes constantly and helps demonize any country that seeks a sovereign path (including China). Hell, they profit from the genocide in Gaza and other atrocities worldwide and prosecute protesters locally.

          If you want me to agree with you that the present day EU is better you’ll have to point to something worse that Russia and especially China are doing.

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            I stated that the present EU is a hell hole, but oligarch Russia, imperialist america and authoritarian capitalist china are better at being a hell hole nothing more and nothing less.

            You imaging me not standing for Gaza or loving colonialism is typical tankie “if your not a Stalinist you must be a neoliberal” is so telling.

            You make up a picture in your head, where you are the good guys, everyone else is evil, and nuances dont exist. Same attitude as maga, puti lovers or ai fanboys, just different made up narrative.

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              Explicitly tell me how the EU is less bad, let’s discuss facts. And no, I didn’t assume your position on Gaza or whatever else, I explained what the European leadership’s position is.

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                Freedom of expression Freedom of assembly Surveillance state Freedom of press / censorship Privacy rights Medical security (at least better than USA and russia, dont know enough about chinas medical system to judge) Queer rights Climate destruction (EU is worse than china but better than Russia and USA by relative standards)

                Not to say anything of those is good here, just not as bad

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                  Freedom of expression unless you want to wear a hijab.

                  Freedom of assembly unless you’re holding a pro Palestine sign.

                  Right to privacy unless the US government wants your data.

                  Freedom of press unless you write pro Russian articles.

                  Medical security unless you’re disabled or can’t work.

                  Queer rights unless you’re trans.

                  Wow sounds like the lesser evil for sure. Definitely a region worth celebrating

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              The EU is imperialist, just like the US. Russia is run by oligarchs, true, but China is both democratic and a socialist country.