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        It’s funny how pathetic of a “win” that supposed difference is yet you have to defend it because it’s the only leg desperately trying to hold your ridiculous argument together.

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        Again, you keep sincerely saying these things that we say as jokes and it’s tripping me up

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          Yeah, “moderate hitler” seriously got me. Do they not realize that people say “moderate hitler” to mock the exact political position they now seem to be unironically supporting?

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        This is a bit, isn’t it? There’s no way you actually believe the things you’re saying.

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          I adopted the other person’s framing, but I do think “moderate Hitler” isn’t as bad as “Hitler”. Just like “moderate Republicans” (the Democrats) and better than “Republicans”.

          I don’t think I’m the weird one for wanting to do harm minimization when harm eradication isn’t realistically on the table.

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            Shit, this take is literally so bad that I might need to go to the hospital for a stroke. Actual cognito hazard.

            Watch out y’all, they found a way to kill commies over the internet.

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              “A better world is not possible, the best we can do is moderate hitler unironically” was NOT on my bingo card for today, but here we are.

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            I adopted the other person’s framing, but I do think “moderate Hitler” isn’t as bad as “Hitler”.

            oh my god, you’re actually not joking

            I could get you to support anything by this logic, rather than refuse the non-choice and choose revolutionary means instead. Literally the only value on display here is the preservation of the current state of things.

            I don’t think I’m the weird one for wanting to do harm minimization when harm eradication isn’t realistically on the table.

            You’re the one saying it’s not on the table, since your idea of political participation doesn’t seem to ever go beyond voting every 4 years for parties that stand for the same thing in the end.

            You can vote for the Democrats, that’s fine, but if you’re expecting them to stop the Republicans or to not do mostly the same things Republicans do then you’re not paying attention to what they do. Voting isn’t going to save you here.

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                Neither is the party you support lmao. May I remind you that despite billions of $ in campaign findings, dozens of appearances on TV and other mass medias, dozens of political rallies, all while being the one of the 2 duopoly party and having no obstacle, Kamala still managed to lose to Trump of all peoples.

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                    geriatric moderate hitler helped the moderate hitler party halt their pseudo-democratic moderate hitler candidate selection program in favor of undemocratically annointing an even more wildly unpopular and more hated moderate hitler that promised to do everything hitler did but with a smiley face so you could stay at brunch.

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                It’s amazing that the only political options you can imagine are voting for the 100% hitler or 99% hitler party until you get 100% hitler anyway. You think revolution is impossible, apparently. The revolution doesn’t come from nowhere and revolutionary politics is not just immediately taking power. You build up parallel institutions of power to be ready to fight when you need to and seize power when the opportunity comes. These can be used to defend yourself when the hitlers come for you.

                Your entire stance here is just “better things aren’t possible, hitler is inevitable”.

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                  The vast majority of Americans think seizing power is putting the Democrats in charge. Not dismantling the government, military, press, and capitalism.

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                    Yeah, in that case “the vast majority of Americans” are wrong. You’re also overestimating how many people believe in that sham of an electoral system, look at polling on whether America is democratic or look at voter participation rates.