• i_ben_fine@midwest.social
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    11 hours ago

    The guy obsessed with driving a bus or unclogging pipes isn’t necessarily the same guy who can defend the value of those tasks. The profit motive redirects a lot of effort away from the task that needs doing to convincing others the task needs doing and for a living wage. But perhaps every imagined economic model will have a Convincing Stage. That could still be streamlined by removing the wage debate and guaranteeing everyone a livelihood.

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      4 hours ago

      Nobody said it had to be the same person doing all of it. You talk of social welfare nets like centrally mandated universal basic income, but you can’t fathom a volunteerist grassroots community-driven effort. Weird how you want your society to be some bizarre faceless bureaucracy that gives you whatever you want like some magic vending machine.

      But, if you’re not going to be the one spending your time articulating other people’s value, why is that a task that’s important enough for someone else to do? If not you, then why would anyone else?

      That’s the problem with most people’s utopian ideology. Most of it involves requiring things of some magical “others”. These things aren’t ever something that you’re willing to give up any of your own time to do solely for someone else’s benefit. The guy bitching about how someone should do something about all the litter in the street is somehow never the one to bend his own fat ass over to pick any of it up.

      Funny how that works.

      This is why America is in the situation it’s in. Everyone wants someone else to solve their problems for them instead of showing up to participate more than one day every fourth November.