Pretending that they’re the same is just as delusional as pretending the Democrats are good. I agree that we have to get organized, but if we can’t even fucking vote then actual organization is a pipedream.
You should show that to Renee Good’s family, or maybe one of the thousands of people in a brand new concentration camp instead of with their families like they were 2 years ago. I’m sure they’ll get a kick out of it.
Oh that’s right, we just started calling them that again now that the Democrats aren’t in charge anymore. What were you calling them before, again? Ah right, “temporary migrant holding facilities.”
Pictured: the peaceful halcyon days of democratic governance
Or maybe try telling it to all the people of color shot by cops from 2020-2024, or the kids in cages that never went away when a Democrat was elected president but just silently forgotten about and suddenly ignored by the same media that had been using them for cheap political points during election season, or the thousands of people in NOT brand-new concentration camps but the ones that have existed the whole fucking time. Or are you saying that none of that shit mattered then since your blue team was in the big boy chair, but only matters now that a cheeto is office and it was a white person that got executed by the bipartisan fascists this time? Despicable.
Of course I was outraged that that was all happening under Democrats. You might notice I haven’t been praising them.
Just because they’re both awful, doesn’t mean that one of them isn’t worse. Pointing out “but hey, blue team bad too” doesn’t contradict that. Failing to vote against Republicans is just giving them ground. In 2024 we gave them ground and they built brand new concentration camps on it. Are you not outraged at that? Do you not wish that could have been avoided?
I’m all for organization. It is quite literally the only path to positive change here. But that doesn’t mean we can stop voting. We have to do both.
If you really do genuinely believe that they’re both the same, then why even bring up the idea of voting? Why spend time, effort and attention convincing people to reduce their civic engagement instead of convincing them to increase their civic engagement?
They both serve capital above all else. They have differences, but are on the same side. Voting matters far less than organization, even if we couldn’t vote we could still organize.
Unhappy Sam: I wish I could get a girlfriend, but no one is going to want to date someone like me
US: Maybe if I work on myself someone will want me. Dress a little nicer, maybe pick up a hobby
Me: Those are great ideas, but you literally don’t wipe your ass. I don’t think any of those things will help until you start doing that.
You: Clean ass and poopy ass are literally both the same, they both shit out poop, you sound so dumb right now. HEY EVERYONE GET A LOAD OF BROWN MAGA OVER HERE. You need to quit worshipping toilet paper and tell this guy to get to the gym. I bet you have a Charmin Bear body pillow you cum in every night.
I don’t really care for the use of allegory to make an argument, especially not the strawman you’re making.
Voting isn’t a genuine lever for working class influence, because both options on the lever lead to capitalist control and domination. You have your priorities flipped, organization is what’s important, it’s the primary means by which the working class has historically won concessions and how revolutionaries have managed to establish socialism around the globe.
Voting is the extra. It takes the least amount of effort, and has the least amount of results. I don’t personally care who you vote for or if you vote if you actually show up and organize. If voting makes you happy and feel secure, then go for it, but it won’t fix any of our problems nor will it prevent conditions from worsening, because those are intrinsic to living in late-stage imperialism.
Ideally you vote for PSL, because neither party will help.
They’re on the same side. I don’t care if you vote or not, but we need to get organized.
Pretending that they’re the same is just as delusional as pretending the Democrats are good. I agree that we have to get organized, but if we can’t even fucking vote then actual organization is a pipedream.
You should show that to Renee Good’s family, or maybe one of the thousands of people in a brand new concentration camp instead of with their families like they were 2 years ago. I’m sure they’ll get a kick out of it.
Oh that’s right, we just started calling them that again now that the Democrats aren’t in charge anymore. What were you calling them before, again? Ah right, “temporary migrant holding facilities.”
Or maybe try telling it to all the people of color shot by cops from 2020-2024, or the kids in cages that never went away when a Democrat was elected president but just silently forgotten about and suddenly ignored by the same media that had been using them for cheap political points during election season, or the thousands of people in NOT brand-new concentration camps but the ones that have existed the whole fucking time. Or are you saying that none of that shit mattered then since your blue team was in the big boy chair, but only matters now that a cheeto is office and it was a white person that got executed by the bipartisan fascists this time? Despicable.
Of course I was outraged that that was all happening under Democrats. You might notice I haven’t been praising them.
Just because they’re both awful, doesn’t mean that one of them isn’t worse. Pointing out “but hey, blue team bad too” doesn’t contradict that. Failing to vote against Republicans is just giving them ground. In 2024 we gave them ground and they built brand new concentration camps on it. Are you not outraged at that? Do you not wish that could have been avoided?
I’m all for organization. It is quite literally the only path to positive change here. But that doesn’t mean we can stop voting. We have to do both.
If you really do genuinely believe that they’re both the same, then why even bring up the idea of voting? Why spend time, effort and attention convincing people to reduce their civic engagement instead of convincing them to increase their civic engagement?
Gestapo funding is bipartisan
They both serve capital above all else. They have differences, but are on the same side. Voting matters far less than organization, even if we couldn’t vote we could still organize.
Unhappy Sam: I wish I could get a girlfriend, but no one is going to want to date someone like me
US: Maybe if I work on myself someone will want me. Dress a little nicer, maybe pick up a hobby
Me: Those are great ideas, but you literally don’t wipe your ass. I don’t think any of those things will help until you start doing that.
You: Clean ass and poopy ass are literally both the same, they both shit out poop, you sound so dumb right now. HEY EVERYONE GET A LOAD OF BROWN MAGA OVER HERE. You need to quit worshipping toilet paper and tell this guy to get to the gym. I bet you have a Charmin Bear body pillow you cum in every night.
I don’t really care for the use of allegory to make an argument, especially not the strawman you’re making.
Voting isn’t a genuine lever for working class influence, because both options on the lever lead to capitalist control and domination. You have your priorities flipped, organization is what’s important, it’s the primary means by which the working class has historically won concessions and how revolutionaries have managed to establish socialism around the globe.
Voting is the extra. It takes the least amount of effort, and has the least amount of results. I don’t personally care who you vote for or if you vote if you actually show up and organize. If voting makes you happy and feel secure, then go for it, but it won’t fix any of our problems nor will it prevent conditions from worsening, because those are intrinsic to living in late-stage imperialism.
Ideally you vote for PSL, because neither party will help.