It’s easier to disable all the garbage than remove the garbage?
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Many people have a sort of learned helplessness. They don’t really know computer fundamentals, they get scared and stressed so they stop thinking, and then they don’t want to deal with it.
People aren’t rational. They’re emotional.
There’s actually a research that sometimes it’s just not in their brain capacity to be more technically savvy.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S107158192400137X
What’s that word Satya Nadella wanted spread far and wide? Oh right, “Microslop”
Wait until they rename Windows to CoPilot!
De-Reddit’ed
I think the point of the reddit screenshot is to show what Windows users are putting up with, not to share the meme itself.
As you wish…and kept OP’s username.
So I recently gave an interview to which, the last question of the product manager cum tech-lead was about how I use AI.
He then specifically asked if I used CoPilot and my negative immediately made him start sighing all over the place.
There seems to be some kind of a push coming from somewhere for these things.Because a CEO hears MS or googles release statements and assumes that good stuff and tells next level down to implement a plan. They are mandated to do something and so start grasping for junk. And force it on lower levels.
Honestly, I would find it more easy to believe that this is a big ploy to stockpile computing and energy resources, while making the general public think that all the rich are fooling themselves.
I find it hard to understand how they can actually believe their hubris, by placing all NN and ML stuff into a single category, regardless of methodology and variation in resource consumption between previously successful and ongoing cash-grab projects.
Also, this company was making train controller HMI for another country. They were going on for hours, spewing buzzwords like, “secure”, “safe” and “mission critical”, but then somehow ended with AI.
How is this Linux related?
Because Windows bad.
IDK friend after 20 years I kinda wish I had the ignorance of the average Windows user. I don’t want to troubleshoot for 3 days, I wanna call a random IT helpline and let them deal with it, but alas, I unfortunately know what I’m doing.
I didn’t know one could call a random IT helpline and get stuff fixed on Windows.
My experience was, either find a workaround or a paid software that did the thing, or live with the bug.But ny free security suite that found 358+ viruses and says I’m missing 200 DLLs said to call 1-800-NO-VIRUS and their technician will fix it over the internet!
You can’t, that’s not immediately obvious when the computer is telling you otherwise
So here’s the thing.
In my phone, when I type a phone number, it is a number and does not contain alphabetic characters.
So that thing that it is asking you to call, isn’t callable. Even if you have a fancy physical keypad that has both letters and numbers on the same keys, they still enter numbers when you try to type letters in the number field.Every dial pad I’ve ever seen, including old rotary phones, has numbers and letters on it. This is not new. This has been a thing for over 70 years now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_keypad#Letters
Based on this, your phone is the problem, not my phoneword.
Whoosh ?
Because its a phone number substitution set. You type by the letters on the dial pad but if fills in numbers for the phone number.
You could actually do the same on Linux, if you paid for ZorinOS. Not sure if the support is via phone though?
I don’t actually want that, but yeah that’s totally a thing. Zorin, RHEL, I’m certain there are others with support contracts.
Yeah,SUSE too. There’s even some that just offer Linux help regardless of distro
Most windows users call a relative or buy a new computer.
Remember, Windows will install updates without user intervention. If you remove things, it just puts them back.
The work around it you set your networks to metered, it won’t install updates.
Then in updates menu you hit pause updates then unpause updates, it will check for all app updates and show you a list with “download and install” button next to each. You choose the ones you want.
With non metered networks, it will just force them all on you with no granularity
Automatic updates are a good thing for the average EU, though. Otherwise they’d never update and their system would probably be compromised.
Automatic, yes.
Forced without consent with no option to disable them? No.
I like automatic updates when I explicitly turn them on myself. I do NOT like automatic updates when they happen during work hours, force me to close programs and/or restart my PC, and reinstall things that I explicitly removed from my PC.
I do NOT like automatic updates when they happen during work hours,
Windows doesn’t automatically update during work hours. By default it tries to figure out when you use your computer, and it won’t reboot during those hours. You can manually configure it too.
how about a wait and see model that i like with all megacorp pushed updates now. that way i can decide if i want their latest batch of ai bullshit, or read the headlines about which cpus their vibecoding bricked this time before it’s too late.
unfortunately automatic updates require a small amount of trust that the update will not break things or change things without permission. Microslop currently has negative trust.
maybe this is good for the average end user, but dissallowing powerusers from doing stuff like this is exactly what annoys me about apple. now microslop is even worse about it…
i just want to actualy control the things i own and not be told how to use my computer.
yeah but they’re not doing just security updates, they’re re-installing bloatware that I deleted a year ago
I don’t need Xbox gaming on my work computer
what does it matter if the companies are doing the ‘compromising’ instead
They tout that its so good yet they have to force it on us and beg us to like it.
I use Copilot at work, it sucks. Any time I ask it to do anything it either can’t do what I’m asking or it does it wrong. On top of that you have middle management who suggests using AI as the solution to everything but offers no further input on how to actually accomplish that goal.
Psst,use linux and say its LLM
“This is an LLM — Linux Libre Machine!”
Thats the way ,keep this up
If this wqs anything other than choice of tools, we’d call it a cult.
Battered wife syndrome.
I believe that they are just not aware that an alternative exists: because they believe Windows 11 is the only OS available besides macOS, they put up with this shit and will try every single hack to tone down the enshitification, until they snap and move away from Windows.
That’s pretty much how cults work. If they even heard about Linux, it’s something with no games, no “productivity”, no drivers, maybe even CLI-only hacker stuff.
There is Windows 10, with the right approach (grey market keys) you continue to get security updates and Win10 will IMO be supported for a very long time (because so many people are going to keep using it). MS will be forced to provide out of band security updates.
I currently have a dual boot with Win10 as I just moved to Mint this month. The MS store keeps trying to update or install apps with copilot even though I don’t have it installed. Like, I uninstalled the notepad app just to prevent this crap and they keep adding it to other apps. The latest one is the GD photo viewer so I had to uninstall that and find an OS one to replace it with.
Win10 is NOT a safe haven and I am so glad I’ve switched to Linux and recommend it to everyone who’ll listen. The only reason I keep Win10 on is in case I forgot an important file or something (I always do), or absolutely need it for some software (no idea if any exist for me) I use that only works with MS.
You are assuming that Windows has not already upgraded silently (or through anti-patterns in the UI) to 11, and what you are proposing is yet another hoop users have to jump through just to keep a “decent” experience.
I believe now is the perfect time to evangelize for Linux: “Are you tired of Windows’s enshitification? Do you own computers that Microsoft deemed to be obsolete just for the sake of selling new licenses? Give Linux a try.”
I agree that now is the perfect time get users to switch.
Justing saying, if you do have critical Windows only software (e.g. work), there is always the option to use Win10 (enterprise installs just get security updates, I didn’t even get a request to upgrade to Win11).
It IS going to happen, if you keep using big tech operating systems and services, because THEY want it to happen and will not stop pushing until it DOES happen.
they only have to push it at the corporate senior executive level. people who notoriously don’t know dick about tech or operating systems or AI–only what one platform makes the most promises about “productivity” and “this can replace x% of your peasant cubicle drones that are costing you money”
once your job adopts MS and copilot, forcing everyone to use it, MS can then turn around and say “our shit is being used by millions!!”
