• big_spoon@lemmygrad.ml
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    3 months ago

    The situation must get horrible. That is a fact. Only then will the most progressive forces emerge and help the others out of the water they are drowning in

    sorry, but that is not how it works, without class consciousness that usually gives strength to fascism

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      3 months ago

      Feel free to be more specific. At this point i dont see why that isnt still the case. Of course it gives rise to fascism, which frightens people into e.g. reading (personal example) which makes them start forming educational circles.

      Imo the biggest reason among many why the communist movement in the west is weaker today than after the war is the relatively good circumstances compared to before the war mixed with large scale disinformation.

      We see this now as the austerity heightens again and the contradictions deepen. The government is starting mass manipulation campaign after campaign while fascism was building over decades, supported by the government.

      But only now do the cracks show more deeply and people such as i have more arguments to show to others who dont have 8 hours uninterrupted time to study das kapital.

      It is quantitative changes which then lead to qualitative ones. Thats what i meant with they need to get horrible.

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        3 months ago

        the biggest reason among many why the communist movement in the west is weaker today than after the war is the relatively good circumstances compared to before the war mixed with large scale disinformation

        i have to agree mostly

        people such as i have more arguments to show

        for example?

        to others who dont have 8 hours uninterrupted time to study das kapital

        oh c’mon, you’re just trying to imply that people are just stupid and lazy…even myself didn’t need 8 hours uninterupted to study das kapital, the original text was delivered in little bits to make it easier to the 19th century workers…if they could make an international, i think there’s no excuse to take some time to read a little. being an empiricist only can take you a little way than you could go learning sum theory

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          3 months ago

          I dont know why you’re being antagonistic but this violates rule three. Please stop putting words in my mouth and assuming my intent.

          I mean well, as do all people on here and it is completely unnecessary to go after comrades.

          If you feel like what I said could be said better or theory disproves my points or other constructive points, please make them or disengage.