DO YOU HAVE A BONUS ACTION? OH YOU WANNA BUILD CLASS X? WELL ONLY LIKE 20% OF RACES WILL GIVE YOU A GOOD BUILD NOW TOO BAD. DO YOU HAVE A BONUS ACTION? TODAY WE ARE FIGHTING AN INTERESTING MONSTER IT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT CAN ATTACK TWICE AND HAS A NICHE ABILITY THAT NEVER GETS TRIGGERED. DO YOU HAVE A BONUS ACTION? OH YOU MOVED? WELL HERE’S AN OPPORTUNITY ATTACK BUT DON’T WORRY YOU CAN AVOID IT BY WASTING LITERALLY YOUR ENTIRE TURN EXCEPT YOU COULD STILL OPEN A DOOR OR DRAW A WEAPON WHICH MAKES TOTAL SENSE I SWEAR THIS ENCOURAGES ACTION RICH COMBAT WE ARE HAVING FUN, DO YOU HAVE A BONUS ACTION?
There’s a French Actual play (Game of Roles) in which they make fun of DnD by overcoming a ranger, in two attempts, before the GM even finished to list all the attacks, bonuses, class details of the ranger. Just to show the complexity.
I felt aggressively bored when reading the comments about the playtest.
Did they improve DM support? Make CR actually work? Is combat more dynamic and faster-paced? Is character creation still a pain in the ass? Did they flesh out non-combat? Do player abilities still tend to solve problems by just turning off parts of the game? Is there a clear vision for what this even is?
Oh look, it’s mostly balance changes to the classes.
I’m not saying they didn’t make some changes to fix my issues. I wouldn’t know either way, since I can’t be bothered to check, since the core audience sure did make it seem like its mostly balance changes to the classes.
Did they improve DM support? Make CR actually work? Is combat more dynamic and faster-paced? Is character creation still a pain in the ass? Did they flesh out non-combat? Do player abilities still tend to solve problems by just turning off parts of the game? Is there a clear vision for what this even is?
I’m not an expert but:
No
No
No (though it is faster than 3.x or 4th, mostly because you don’t have any options)
At least there are options now. Still nothing significant past character creation, of course
No
Probably. Either that or hitting it with an axe
Yeah it’s a love letter to second ed, with bits of third mixed in to keep angry internet nerds who never played anything else happy
I don’t think 5th is the worst edition of d&d (controversially I think that’s 3.x), but it is the most nothing edition. The best editions are of course 13th Age and Pathfinder 2e
If you’re interested in the history of the hobby, it’s important, and there are good bits in there, but… yeah. It’s extremely messy, sometimes outright broken, and sexist even by the standards of its time and context.
I love 3e, but it was the first edition I played. If you look at it and think, “No, absolutely not,” I can’t argue with you. :P It’s a mess, but it’s in my trash pile.
And dnd 5e is the most aggressively mid RPG ever published
DO YOU HAVE A BONUS ACTION? OH YOU WANNA BUILD CLASS X? WELL ONLY LIKE 20% OF RACES WILL GIVE YOU A GOOD BUILD NOW TOO BAD. DO YOU HAVE A BONUS ACTION? TODAY WE ARE FIGHTING AN INTERESTING MONSTER IT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT CAN ATTACK TWICE AND HAS A NICHE ABILITY THAT NEVER GETS TRIGGERED. DO YOU HAVE A BONUS ACTION? OH YOU MOVED? WELL HERE’S AN OPPORTUNITY ATTACK BUT DON’T WORRY YOU CAN AVOID IT BY WASTING LITERALLY YOUR ENTIRE TURN EXCEPT YOU COULD STILL OPEN A DOOR OR DRAW A WEAPON WHICH MAKES TOTAL SENSE I SWEAR THIS ENCOURAGES ACTION RICH COMBAT WE ARE HAVING FUN, DO YOU HAVE A BONUS ACTION?
There’s a French Actual play (Game of Roles) in which they make fun of DnD by overcoming a ranger, in two attempts, before the GM even finished to list all the attacks, bonuses, class details of the ranger. Just to show the complexity.
I felt aggressively bored when reading the comments about the playtest.
Did they improve DM support? Make CR actually work? Is combat more dynamic and faster-paced? Is character creation still a pain in the ass? Did they flesh out non-combat? Do player abilities still tend to solve problems by just turning off parts of the game? Is there a clear vision for what this even is?
Oh look, it’s mostly balance changes to the classes.
I’m not saying they didn’t make some changes to fix my issues. I wouldn’t know either way, since I can’t be bothered to check, since the core audience sure did make it seem like its mostly balance changes to the classes.
I’m not an expert but:
I don’t think 5th is the worst edition of d&d (controversially I think that’s 3.x), but it is the most nothing edition. The best editions are of course 13th Age and Pathfinder 2e
“A love letter to 2e” actually sounds a lot better than anything else I’ve heard about the revision. :P
Also, I have a soft spot for 3.x, but my potentially controversial opinion is that 1e is the worse edition by far.
1e ad&d is the only version I’ve not played (though I’ve only played basic a couple of times), so you could well be right!
If you’re interested in the history of the hobby, it’s important, and there are good bits in there, but… yeah. It’s extremely messy, sometimes outright broken, and sexist even by the standards of its time and context.
I love 3e, but it was the first edition I played. If you look at it and think, “No, absolutely not,” I can’t argue with you. :P It’s a mess, but it’s in my trash pile.