• ms.lane@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    7 hours ago

    Until energy independence can truly be solved (and make no mistake, the fight against both Renewables AND Nuclear is a fight against our base freedoms) we’re stuck with rationing and capitalism has been the least worst way to ration limited energy.

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
      81·
      7 hours ago

      No? Socialism is far better, looking at how socialist countries prioritize electrification and balancing ecological protection with development it’s clear.

      • ms.lane@lemmy.worldEnglish
        18·
        6 hours ago

        ‘socialist countries’ is a misnomer only used by Americans - Europe, UK, Aus, NZ - we’re Mixed Market economies.

        Capitalism is still the driver of the economy, but we collectively realised that humans must come first. I should probably have said this is what I mean by capitalism, not US style corporatism.

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
          7·
          6 hours ago

          I’m not talking about those imperialist countries, but Cuba, the PRC, DPRK, Vietnam, Laos, former USSR, Nicaragua, Venezuela, etc. I don’t lionize the countries you assumed I do that fund their safety nets through imperialism. Both the US Empire and all of the countries you listed are indeed capitalist.

          • ms.lane@lemmy.worldEnglish
            18·
            6 hours ago

            Bar Cuba every country you mentioned is Capitalist…

            China is speedrunning late-state capitalism as we speak…

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
              71·
              6 hours ago

              Incorrect. Every single economy I listed has public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy, with the working class in control of the state. The fact that China is developed, and maintains markets for small and medium secondary industries does not mean private ownership is dominant.

              • ms.lane@lemmy.worldEnglish
                17·
                6 hours ago

                So then USA isn’t capitalist either, since most of the companies are publicly owned as a principle aspect of their economy.

                The US working class are in control of US as much as the Chinese working class are in control of China.

                • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
                  81·
                  4 hours ago

                  Incorrect, I don’t mean “publicly traded” as publicly owned, but actual public ownership, like state-run healthcare. Private ownership is the principle aspect of the US economy. As for working class control, you’re incorrect again:

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
    39·
    1 day ago

    Allow me to finish with a very blunt analogy. Cows can do lots of things. But all we care about is that they produce as much milk and meat as possible. And so we breed them, inject them, rear them, and control them to do only that. Sometimes their udders are so distended by excessive production they tear, split and spill.

    We are cattle to capital. We too have become distorted and disfigured by its universal rule. It brands us as abstract labour. But we are also concrete individuals. The form does not exhaust the content. And this seemingly innocuous non-identity between form and content is the fundamental reason why, one day, we will escape from capital’s rule.