After seeing a megathread praising Mao Zedong, an actual mass killer, and a post about a guy saying “99% of westerners are 100000000000% sure they know what happened in ‘Tiny Man Square’ […] the reasons for this are complex and involve propaganda […],” I am genuinely curious what leads people to this belief system. Even if propaganda is involved when it comes to Tiananmen Square, it doesn’t change the atrocities that were/are committed everywhere else in China.

I am all for letting people believe what they want but I am lost on why one would deliberately praise any authoritarian system this hard.

Can someone please help me understand why this is such a large and prominent community? How have these ideals garnered such a following outside of China?

  • Tinidril@midwest.social
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    I agree with that “right wing” and “authoritarian” are two different things, but lots of people, including tankies are absolutely “predisposed to authoritarianism”. It has nothing to do with eugenics though, because the genetics behind it are universal to humanity. It’s all about how people are brought up, the social influences they encounter, and level of education.

    the only large societies that have managed to actually collectivize the lands and resist western imperialism have been Marxist-Leninist.

    I don’t think many non-tankies, or even anti-tankies, would disagree with this statement. However, it does seem to be a frying pan to fire situation. It’s no good escaping the grasp of “the west” if the cure is worse than the disease, and that’s almost always the case.

    The Soviets are gone and modern Russia is little more than a Mafia state. China is ascendent, but it’s also growing more capitalist by the hour, and even with the current US administration, we still have more freedoms in America than in China. Whether that remains true is yet to be seen, but if America falls to authoritarianism and joins Russia as a second Mafia state, we know we can count on tankies to cheer it on, oblivious to how much worse that will be for pretty much all of humanity.

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      Actually I think that if Amerikkka became a pile of rubble tomorrow it wouldn’t be worse for pretty much all of humanity. I think the opposite is true.

      Also lol at an American claiming that they have more freedoms than Chinese people. Your country is building concentration camps! You don’t get to say you’re better than a country that doesn’t have concentration camps when you’re operating dozens of them!

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        If you think the US goes away when the authoritarians take over, you are delusional. We’ll just be an overt empire instead of a (ostensibly) covert one.

        I’m well aware of the concentration camps, and I’m also aware that China also has concentration camps and that Chinese media can’t talk about it - including social media. I’m also aware that you’re going to tell me that’s just Western propaganda and that China is just sending Uyghurs to amusement parks in Xinjiang or some other nonsense. The US has bullshit explanations for our concentration camps too. They are just processing centers, or the people held there are terrorists and drug smugglers. I accept Chinas bullshit just as much as you accept Trump’s.

        Millions of Americans are resisting our camps, and they likely won’t survive 2026. Trump’s project of consolidating power is failing, in spite of the assistance he gets from Russia. Our prison system should really be what you use as a distraction, because that’s going to be a lot harder to reform, though in many blue states there has been a lot of progress.

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          I don’t think America’s concentration camps will go away in 2026. They didn’t go away after Trump lost in 2020.

          Can you show evidence that China has concentration camps?